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One year not enough to prove global warming
Corvallis Gazette-Times | March 9, 2008 | George Taylor

Posted on 03/09/2008 11:48:51 AM PDT by PROCON

It's been a weird year.

In the Northwest, we've had the snowiest winter in many years. Even with a relatively dry second half of February, the snowpack in the Willamette drainage is at 172 percent of normal.

Baghdad has had snow on several occasions. I read somewhere that snow there had not been reported there since 1916. My son-in-law, Matt Halverson, is stationed in Baghdad with the U.S. Marines and confirmed that they had indeed, received snow.

China has had severe blizzards; according to0 some reports, they flattened about 10 percent of the country's forests.

Subtropical northern Vietnam experienced a prolong cold spell in January that sent temperatures as low as 28 degrees-unusually cold for that location.

Austrailia and Argentina have had a very cold 12 months, causing a very poor wheat crop- a major reason why wheat prices now exceed $12 per bushel, more than three times higher than a year ago.

On the other hand: Stockholm, Sweden posted an average temperature of 36 degrees this winter (December throught February) thwe warmest winter since 1756.

In the Continental United States things were rather sedate, despite the tornadoes that struck the Southwest in January and the heavy snow. This winter ranked as the 54th coolest on record at 0.2 degrees above normal, according to preliminary figures released Thursday by the National Climate Data Center in Ashville, N.C. that put it about in the middle of the winters since 1895. but the winter was wet. It ranked as the 18th-wettest winter, dropping an average of 2.7 inches of moisture on the Country-just over half an inch above normal.

Do these statistics have anything to do with global warming? Or climate change?

In a word, no. A single year doesn't mean much when it comes to climate.

Recently I gave a presentation at a local highschool on climate and an Oregon State University colleague presented as well. He suggested that Hurricane Katrina and the Europeon heat waves of 2003 were "proof" that gflobal warming was occuring. But I don't think that's true at all. Single weather events, single seasons, even single years mean very little-anything can happen in such short time periods. Rather, it is necessary to look at longer-term trends before maliong such declarations.

On a weekly basis, natural variations in weather "are far greater" than any climate change signal," says Michael Halpert, deputy director of the National Weather Service's Climate Prediction Center. Winter temperatures in North Dakota can drop a low as 30 below zero or rise to 50 above. Against such strong temperature changes, "folks in North Dakota aren't going to see that it's a degree cplder" based on long term-trends in global average temperatures, he adds.

But average temperatures in North Dakota have been cold, just as they have been in Oregon. The reason: La Nina conditions in the Pacific and a very quiet sun. La Nina, characterized by cooler-than-average water in the tropical Pacific off the west coast of South America, generaly gives us our wettest, coolest and snowiest winters. Ditto for the rest of the northern tier of states. The cold winter in the northern U.S. is just what one expects from La Nina.

Meanwhile, the sun is at it's "solar minimum," with virtually no sunspots. This may be the reason for the strength of this year's La Nina and may be contributing to the cold year.

And another feature of La Nina years: a cool, wet spring. I hate to say that, now that you have endured a wet, cool winter and are probably hoping for a dry, warm spring.

But I just don't think it'll happen.


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Georgen Taylor is the (former) Oregon State Climatologist and now manages the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University.

He's become more out-spoken since his announced retirement in June, and his entrance into the private sector

Sorry no URL yet, had to type in the whole thing!!

1 posted on 03/09/2008 11:48:52 AM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON; Fiddlstix; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; CygnusXI; ...
 


2 posted on 03/09/2008 11:49:29 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: PROCON
Global Warming has been abandoned. Say ‘air pollution,’ and include carbon this time as a greenhouse gas among other pollutants.
3 posted on 03/09/2008 11:51:33 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: PROCON

Wow! Thanks for the effort.

The guy sounds like a level-headed scientist, not a moonbat-influenced huckster looking for research grants.

I hope voices like his become the norm. With the Oscar and Nobel given to Al Gore, I have a feeling there will be an even bigger campaign to stuff “global warming” down our throats, for no other reason than to convince the masses that Al Gore was right about something.


4 posted on 03/09/2008 11:55:16 AM PDT by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: steelyourfaith
Thanks for pinging the "NON-BELIEVERS!!
5 posted on 03/09/2008 11:56:24 AM PDT by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: JennysCool
Our lib Governor pretty much showed George the door last year. Who you going to believe a politician or a Climotologist?/sheesh
6 posted on 03/09/2008 11:58:39 AM PDT by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: PROCON

Excuses, excuses...What do they need 200 years? 100? 12?

How ‘bout global warming is only as warm as the caca of which it consists?


7 posted on 03/09/2008 11:59:10 AM PDT by madison10
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To: PROCON
This winter ranked as the 54th coolest on record at 0.2 degrees above normal

Winter isn't over. How can anyone make this statement?

8 posted on 03/09/2008 12:00:17 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: Soliton

Mr. Taylor can be reached at taylor@coas.oregonstate.edu


9 posted on 03/09/2008 12:02:06 PM PDT by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RightWhale
Global Warming has been abandoned. Say ‘air pollution,’ and include carbon this time as a greenhouse gas among other pollutants.

I'm seeing more and more of that. The new mantra seems to be, "even if we are wrong about global warming, we'll have a 'cleaner world' " (if we spend a gazillion dollars and regulate industries out of business). Pretty alarming.

10 posted on 03/09/2008 12:02:07 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: PROCON
Mr. Taylor can be reached at taylor@coas.oregonstate.edu

even Oregon State can't change the vernal equinox.

11 posted on 03/09/2008 12:05:00 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: PROCON
China has had severe blizzards; according to0 some reports, they flattened about 10 percent of the country's forests.

My B.S. detector is quivering.

12 posted on 03/09/2008 12:05:07 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: PROCON

A couple of decades does not prove anything either when one considers the Earth’s timeline. When one looks at a temp graph it generally appears like the teeth of a mako shark. Warming and cooling has happened so many times over this planet’s existence that it’s truly amazing that anyone who has a sense of pride in their work would jump so unquestioningly in favor of anthropogenic warming and proposed means of curtailing it.


13 posted on 03/09/2008 12:06:05 PM PDT by Round 9
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To: Izzy Dunne
My B.S. detector is quivering.

Alright, would you believe 9 percent?!/s

14 posted on 03/09/2008 12:07:54 PM PDT by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: PROCON
Not to woory as soon as the summer temps start to hit the upper nineties and lowed hundreds the warmists will be screaming their mantra again and will demand our lawyers .... ooops .... I mean politicians do something NOW! to stop it. I predict more of our food in our fuel.
15 posted on 03/09/2008 12:08:07 PM PDT by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: PROCON
One year not enough to prove global warming

It is, too!!
THE DEBATE IS OVER!
You're just a Glo-bull Warmingtm Denier! You probably deny the Holocaust ever happened, too!

16 posted on 03/09/2008 12:08:38 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: PROCON

It will be interesting to see if a cool period now ensues due to issues with this solar cycle.

If it lasts a few years, it will make the global warming argument even more fantastic, as experts attempt to explain the cooling data.


17 posted on 03/09/2008 12:08:59 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: uglybiker
Man, you hang out with some UGLY women!/LOL
18 posted on 03/09/2008 12:10:18 PM PDT by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Soliton

“Winter isn’t over. How can anyone make this statement?”

Who knows, people will say anything. I’ve heard that [measurement of time] was the [warmest|coolest] (whateversuits your beliefs) since [any year that makes the above plausible].

What NASA GISS says:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/


19 posted on 03/09/2008 12:10:22 PM PDT by Sols
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To: calcowgirl

They are evolving rapidly. Must be the Internet. Conservatives need to pay attention a little closer or risk being out of date by ten minutes and therefore irrelevant.


20 posted on 03/09/2008 12:12:38 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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