Oregon Patients Prescribed Lethal Drugs for "Fear" of Pain and Loss of Dignity

LifeSiteNews ^ | 3/7/08 | Hilary White

[wagglebee]

"How tragic that people in Oregon who decided on assisted suicide may have cheated themselves out of a time that, for all their fears, they might have ultimately found to be well worth the living."

The culture of death views them as "worthless eaters."

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[kittymyrib]

Typical Oregon liberals. Now they want tax-payer funded suicide because they are afraid of pain. Rather, they should be afraid of death.

[Salvation]

**”How tragic that people in Oregon who decided on assisted suicide may have cheated themselves out of a time that, for all their fears, they might have ultimately found to be well worth the living.”**

So much is happening in the medical field that this is not worth the dignity. (My opinion.)

[Salvation]

Pray for an end to euthanasia and the conversion of America to a mindset of life!

[Salvation]

The Catechism of the Catholic Church

Euthanasia

2276 Those whose lives are diminished or weakened deserve special respect. Sick or handicapped persons should be helped to lead lives as normal as possible.

2277 Whatever its motives and means, direct euthanasia consists in putting an end to the lives of handicapped, sick, or dying persons. It is morally unacceptable.

Thus an act or omission which, of itself or by intention, causes death in order to eliminate suffering constitutes a murder gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator. The error of judgment into which one can fall in good faith does not change the nature of this murderous act, which must always be forbidden and excluded.

2278 Discontinuing medical procedures that are burdensome, dangerous, extraordinary, or disproportionate to the expected outcome can be legitimate; it is the refusal of "over-zealous" treatment. Here one does not will to cause death; one's inability to impede it is merely accepted. The decisions should be made by the patient if he is competent and able or, if not, by those legally entitled to act for the patient, whose reasonable will and legitimate interests must always be respected.

2279 Even if death is thought imminent, the ordinary care owed to a sick person cannot be legitimately interrupted. The use of painkillers to alleviate the sufferings of the dying, even at the risk of shortening their days, can be morally in conformity with human dignity if death is not willed as either an end or a means, but only foreseen and tolerated as inevitable Palliative care is a special form of disinterested charity. As such it should be encouraged.

[Salvation]

2282 If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law.

Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.

 

2281 Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God.

 

2325 Suicide is seriously contrary to justice, hope, and charity. It is forbidden by the fifth commandment.

[Salvation]

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[Ukiapah Heep]

Why let Doctors shoot to kill based on "feelings"?

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

Of course, there will be no reasonable discussion on this thread of the options in dealing with terminal illness and pain.

Having said that, at the risk of being flamed from here to eternity....the reality is that by “offering” a way out of severe pain with massive narcotics ( which may contribute to death ) available to the patient...the statistics show
1. Most people want to go on lving, even with pain, and other trauma of their illness if the fear is removed. therefore LESS people attempt suicide and may be able to go on. also, patients use LESS narcotics when given free choice for monitoring their own pain.
2. Even when patients are given medications to use as euthanasia....an extremely extremely small percentage ever use the meds.

Lets look at the overall issue to see how best to deal with the traumas of terminal illness. and lets not pretend that there is no need to address these fears cause “no one ever has to feel pain nowadays.”.( not true.)

I welcome discussion and research. that does not preclude strong value positions!

[jimtorr]

Even when patients are given medications to use as euthanasia....

I think you may misunderstand the Oregon law. It is the Doctor who administers the drugs, not the patient. A minor quibble, true, but perhaps an important one to your argument.

Most people find it easier to have medical personnel administer serious medication.

[jimtorr]

On second thought, I may have misunderstood the law in Oregon.

[blackdog]

My mom had ALS and lasted two years from time of diagnosis. Her doctor prescribed her several medications early on and made it very clear to her that she should be very careful with them because taking more than X number of X prescription would result in respitory failure and she'd expire in a sleep state.

IOW, if life got too bad, here's how to end your situation. What's wrong with that?

[shrinkermd]

The Hippocratic Oath antedated Christ by 500 years. It specifically precluded physicians from preparing a poison or doing an abortion.

The underlying reason, even in pagan times, was that physicians would be given power over life and death which would distract them from their real job. Further, patients under their care would never know when the treatment might degenerate to a “black pill.” The pagan ancients were right and Oregon is wrong. The Dutch and others are even more wrong.

[FormerACLUmember]

Democrat Party approved homicide.

[Salvation]

Good talent there. And so true.

[peeps36]

If I became terminally ill and suffered from intolerable pain I would want the right to make my own decision about putting an end to it. I think it should be left up to the person whether they want to end their suffering or deal with the suffering and die a natural death. Just knowing I had the option of ending it might be enough to help me get through to the end.

[rahbert]

Both of my adoptive parents passed after prolonged suffering which they bore with dignity and serenity.
I would have given them anything they asked for in
order to reduce or terminate their suffering. Being
good Catholics they accepted the fate that the Lord
intended. But if they chose otherwize, who but God
should judge them? On the other hand, for a doctor
to terminate a life is a repudiation of all they stand
for. But if the patient does this, themselves, knowingly,
its a mattter for them and their God, and the state should
butt out.

[blackdog]

I feel for what you say. FWIW, my mom did not take the drugs her doctor had prescribed for her which would end her life. She took the long way out, which was very painful for us to watch.

That being said above, an excellent doctor/patient relationship prevents in most cases these issues becoming matters for the state. As you say......Butt out!