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To: Popman
So by the same logic, if I get a speeding ticket my bank who owns the loan on my car should pay for my ticket ?

Your logic is incorrect.

The bank is the lien holder on your vehicle. They are not the 'owner'.

You are the registered owner of the vehicle {presumably - or somebody in your family}.

If you loan your car to your sister and she gets caught by one of these cameras, the ticket is coming to you.

If you loan your car to your son and he gets caught by one of these cameras, the ticket is coming to you.

If you loan your car to your girlfriend and she gets caught by one of these cameras, the ticket is coming to you.

If you loan your car to the drunken bum hanging out in front of the store and he gets caught by one of these cameras, the ticket is coming to you.

That is the way those laws were written. Because the cameras cannot identify who was driving. They can only identify the vehicle.

It would be up to you to seek reimbursement from the violator, but YOU WOULD BE THE PERSON PAYING THE TICKET AND PAYING THE FINE IF YOU DIDN'T>

25 posted on 03/09/2008 7:00:08 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“It would be up to you to seek reimbursement from the violator, but YOU WOULD BE THE PERSON PAYING THE TICKET AND PAYING THE FINE IF YOU DIDN’T”

Not in AZ. There, if you are not clearly the person in the picture, the ticket will be dismissed.


39 posted on 03/09/2008 7:38:30 AM PDT by CountryLawyer (9/11 We shall never forget.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad; Popman
So by the same logic, if I get a speeding ticket my bank who owns the loan on my car should pay for my ticket ?

Your logic is incorrect.

How about a rental?

41 posted on 03/09/2008 7:47:52 AM PDT by Living Free in NH
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To: Pikachu_Dad
I think the answer is to go to court and force the prosecution to meet their burden of proof that you (the respondent) was actually the person who committed the crime.

Cross Exam:
Respondent: Does the intersection camera clearly show that I was the person driving the car?
Testifying Official: No
Respondent: So why am I being charged with a crime?
Official: Because the car was registered to you.
Respondent: Can you prove that I was the driver?
Official: No
Respondent: I am finished with my cross-examination.
Respondent: Your honor, I motion for dismissal based on lack of evidence.

Of course, this assumes that you live in a state (like mine, Pennsylvania) that still has a burden of proof of beyond a reasonable doubt for ALL crimes, including traffic infractions.

-Bill

46 posted on 03/09/2008 8:26:37 AM PDT by billakay
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To: Pikachu_Dad
By your logic we could also apply that to gun laws?

If someone uses MY REGISTERED gun to shoot someone, I'm responsible?

B.S.!!

49 posted on 03/09/2008 8:36:32 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Glad you cleared that up. I now can sleep at night.

I didn't even have to type in caps to make my point

54 posted on 03/09/2008 9:44:35 AM PDT by Popman (Gold Standard: Trying to squeeze a 50 lb economy back into a 5 lb bag)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

IMO, the police department should simply dock each cop’s pay by the dollar amount of camera ticket fines he received during the pay period.


62 posted on 03/09/2008 1:36:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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