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To: calcowgirl

None of us on this forum are totally happy with McCain, but until we get a truly conservative to run, I think we back the republican candidate.

I remember the Carter years vividly. An Obama or Hillary presidency will be ten times worse.


163 posted on 03/10/2008 7:00:28 AM PDT by nikos1121 (I'm voting for McCain...and fixin' to get excited about it.)
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To: nikos1121; indylindy; TommyDale; exit82; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; ...
Look--I have not challenged anyone's decision to vote for McCain. It is their vote. However, I would hope we could all be honest enough to tell the truth about what we are facing. To say that McCain is a conservative (top 12%?) is simply not true. To say that McCain won't push again for an amnesty (under whatever name) is simply not credible. To say that McCain will appoint strict constructionist judges goes against actions and statements he consistently made prior to his most recent campaign. To not recognize that McCain champions some of the most destructive environmental programs is like sticking your head in the sand. Etc. etc. etc.

Whether McCain, or Hillbama, we are going to have a centrist-to-liberal president come November. We better be prepared to fight the liberalism coming out of the White House or we are all cooked! Also, when McCain has control of the Party apparatus, how much support do you think your local state party is going to get for electing conservatives (or moderates, for that matter)? Should we not plan for that inevitablity, or should we wait until 2010 after the internal structure of the party has been moved even farther to the left?

You see, I don't see November 5 as the end of the game. I also don't think that a McCain "win" is a win for conservatism or the platform of the existing party. The fight has only begun. What will you do when President McCain formally lays out a platform for closing Guantanamo? Will you support him because he is your party's President--or will you oppose it on principle? What will you do when President McCain introduces a new multi-billion dollar program to fight global warming or announces his support for the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea? Will you support it, or will you fight it? What will you do when the McCain camp rewrites the party platform in November and you realize that you now only support 20% of his big-government "National Greatness" policies? What then?

Support of your party's candidate is fine--but what would it take for some to realize that the party has been taken over by people that do not represent the same ideas upon which that party has operated for several decades?

Many of us in California have just lived through this for the last 5 years since electing Arnold Schwarzenegger as our governor. He has accomplished more for LIBERALISM than any Democrat could have dreamed of. He has destroyed the Republican party apparatus, leaving it totally incapable of assisting any conservative (or Republican) campaign this fall. Economically, the man is clueless and embraces many of the same environmental policies as Al Gore (much like McCain). For the first several years, all we Californians heard from the "pragmatic" bunch was why we still had to support our so-called Republican governor because he was better than the (D). Sound familiar?

Vote as you see fit--but please, open your eyes and recognize what you are voting for, what the next 4-8 years might bring, and plan accordingly. And please, don't gripe about those of us that are looking beyond November 5th.

164 posted on 03/10/2008 9:49:45 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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