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New 'super-spike' might mean $200 a barrel oil(so says Goldman Sachs)
Market Watch ^ | 03/07/08 | Steve Gelsi

Posted on 03/07/2008 7:24:17 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

New 'super-spike' might mean $200 a barrel oil

Goldman's projections foretell persistent turbulence in energy prices

By Steve Gelsi, MarketWatch

Last update: 1:42 p.m. EST March 7, 2008

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- With $100-a-barrel here for now, Goldman Sachs says $200 a barrel could be a reality in the not-too-distant future in the case of a "major disruption." Goldman on Friday also boosted by $10 the low end of its 2008-2012 projected range for crude to $60 a barrel -- significantly lower than current prices, to be sure, but a possible mark for oil if "normalized" trends return to the marketplace.

With the dollar's fall continuing and financial markets roiled by the credit crunch, commodities like oil have been drawing the fancy of increasing numbers of investors. Accordingly, Wall Street firms have been eager to adjust forecasts to incorporate fresh data on the global economy and energy supplies.

Goldman analysts Arjun Murti, Kevin Koh and Michele della Vigna said prices have advanced more quickly than Goldman had forecast back in 2005, when it predicted a range of $50 to $105 a barrel as part of its "super-spike" oil theory.

"We characterized the upper end of the band as more likely to be driven by geopolitical turmoil and that recession was a key risk to our view," the analysts said. "In fact, oil prices have reached $100 a barrel without extraordinary turmoil, and the U.S. currently appears to be in recession."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alternativefuels; biofuels; ethanol; goldmansachs; oil; superspike
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To: mkjessup
“So we should steal what we can’t buy? Isn’t that why Japan bombed Pearl Harbor?

1.) Absolutely.”

Right, the whole world lives for the good of the USA. And if we can't we should start killing people who don't give us what we are not willing to pay for. That is immoral, and I would say that makes you immoral.

If we do that, the whole world will line up against us.

21 posted on 03/07/2008 7:54:34 PM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: FightThePower!
Isn’t that why Japan bombed Pearl Harbor?

I thought that was the Germans?

22 posted on 03/07/2008 7:55:18 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: ARE SOLE

“Isn’t that why Japan bombed Pearl Harbor?
I thought that was the Germans?”

Germans? Forget it he’s rolling.


23 posted on 03/07/2008 7:57:27 PM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Goldman is giving the rest of us 15 minutes notice.


24 posted on 03/07/2008 8:00:57 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: FightThePower!
If we do that, the whole world will line up against us.

I think the point is, if oil skyrocketed enough, a significant portion of the world would line up alongside us.

But I'd bet against $200 oil anytime soon, whatever GS says.

25 posted on 03/07/2008 8:01:06 PM PST by squidly
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To: FightThePower!
We should get a few nuclear reactors up and running *soon*. Save the oil for cars and plastic.

And stop burning our *food* for energy!!

26 posted on 03/07/2008 8:04:40 PM PST by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It might also be a matter of a shrinking dollar. They seem to be saying that it might “spike” to $200. That suggests a hyperbolic upmove and a quick drop, the way gold behaved in 1980.


27 posted on 03/07/2008 8:05:43 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: squidly
“But I'd bet against $200 oil anytime soon, whatever GS says.”

Well, Bernacki is increasing the amount of money in circulation by 25% a year so I'd say we will be there in a minimum of 4 years.

28 posted on 03/07/2008 8:12:03 PM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

More like they have positioned themselves to benefit from a market jump caused by causing more uncertainty in the oil market.


29 posted on 03/07/2008 8:18:22 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: FightThePower!
So we should steal what we can’t buy?

It was ours to begin with. Who do you think explored, drilled and produced oil out of the Middle East? It certainly wasn't those Muslim simpletons.

If not for our efforts 80 years ago, those camel-jocks would still be wandering the sands.

We should take it back.

30 posted on 03/07/2008 8:36:53 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: FightThePower!
Right, the whole world lives for the good of the USA. And if we can't we should start killing people who don't give us what we are not willing to pay for. That is immoral, and I would say that makes you immoral.

Thanks for weighing in , Senator Obama.

31 posted on 03/07/2008 8:39:18 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: mkjessup
‘OPEC’ will stand for ‘Occupied Petroleum Exporting Colonies’.

Now THAT has a nice ring to it. A REALLY nice ring.

32 posted on 03/07/2008 8:47:28 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We are a paper tiger to take this, we have leverage in many ways, just exercise them.


33 posted on 03/07/2008 8:57:12 PM PST by boomop1
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To: Balding_Eagle
"$200 oil right before the election might be the best thing in the long run."

But Bush won't be able to help his "oil buddies make obscene profits" after 2009. What will liberals blame high prices on?

34 posted on 03/07/2008 9:06:40 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: FightThePower!

Indeed - Greater East-Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere

But it did not work

Maybe this time ???


35 posted on 03/07/2008 9:28:59 PM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If the price goes high enough, not only will we be drilling in ANWAR, but also off the coast of Florida and California.


36 posted on 03/07/2008 10:17:25 PM PST by FFranco
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To: FightThePower!
Right, the whole world lives for the good of the USA. And if we can't we should start killing people who don't give us what we are not willing to pay for. That is immoral, and I would say that makes you immoral. If we do that, the whole world will line up against us.

If the government would do what they actually CAN do, like imposing sanctions that really have an impact on them as much as the out of control oil price has on us, we would be laughing at them now.

37 posted on 03/07/2008 10:24:23 PM PST by X-FID
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To: FFranco

It could be, partly, because indications are that a terrorist attack is imminent.


38 posted on 03/07/2008 10:27:27 PM PST by silentknight
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Hmm.. I am sure that Goldman Sachs has already positioned itself to benefit from super-hike. It would help if Abby Joseph Cohen does cheerleading for high oil price. She is good at talking things up.:-)

I have read / heard that the high oil prices are all due to speculation.
It's actually the cost of "oil futures" that is going up, as the prices we are seeing is what the stock market is actually paying for oil that isn't even out of the ground yet.

I notice some posters conjecturing that the problem may be solved by military action.
Only a political neophyte would make a move like that.
More likely, the FTC will ban all trading in oil futures, and end all speculation on the market.
Goldman Sachs and others could find themselves eating big losses if the FTC gets involved.

39 posted on 03/07/2008 10:42:59 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: Drammach

So it seems who will be whacked all depends on who has the bigger lobbying power, OPEC or Wall St.:-)


40 posted on 03/07/2008 10:51:11 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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