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[[Which time? The time you said the Earth is the center of the Universe? Or the time you said it isn’t?]]

I never stated either case- let’s keep it intellectually honest, shall we?

[[The Aztec and Mayan cultures. The ones that would routinely tear the still beating hearts out of a couple thousand people in an otherwise boring afternoon. Do you know nothing of history?]]

Yup

[[Wow. You assert that the Church was secular? You assert that their strict belief in the creation accounts in Genesis weren’t Bible based?]]

Yes I do assert that- the early Catholic Church was certainly NOT doing hte will of God and as such were NOT of God! That is NOT to say that there weren’t people within the Church who were unsaved, BUT it IS stating the FACT that the leaders were unsaved and set themselves up as God’s arbitrators of justice which were directly AGAINST God’s word and character.

[[I’m beginning to suspect that reality based meaningful discussion is impossible with you.]]

Why is that? Because your OPINION about matters is different than mine? The aerly Cathoic Church was run and dictated by Romans who were ANTI-God. They ABUSED the position of hte church, and set themselves up in power with absolutely NO desire to obey God. They used the influence of the church to present irreligious secular ideals, and htus were NO part of God’s family! Their culpibility in deceiving many ‘in the name of religion’ will be massive when they are judged by God. Not everyone that says Abba father is saved, and many many people have deceived a great many people by professing that htey are ordained of God when they clearly are NOT. We are told to test the psirits (meaning to test whether someone is of God or if they are false teachers) and the early catholic church leaders FAILED this test because htier actions did not reflect God’s truth!

[[OK. Put up or shut up. Either support this current statement with the chapter and verse where the Bible says that the earth is the center of the universe, or revert to your statement in post]]

ahh- gettin a little testy eh? I never said the earth is the center- I HAVE said the bible doesn’t make mention one way or hte other as far as I know!

[The objective fact that anyone can see that Jupiter has its own moons isn’t an opinion.]]

In that you are correct- What were we talking about again? Whether people beleive we are geoncentric or heliocentric last I checked, any opinions based on the observances of moons and spheres concerning our position in the universe is just that- an opinion- especially in the early days when there was a lack of more sophisticated instruments- you seem ot be introducing several unrelated issues here.