[SwankyC]

but since Hoover I feel they have gone out of their way - at the expense of good agents' careers - to prevent themselves from being viewed negatively

Tell that to Randy Weaver and his family. But I'm sure glad you feel like they've gone above and beyond.

[Toadman]

Sarcasm does not become you FRiend. Sound argument and reasoned judgement does sway me.

I and my FBI friends agree that what happened at Ruby Ridge was a travesty. There can be no reasoned exceptions or "howevers."

Because I'm critical of that eposide (and Waco) does not mean I'm going to ostracize my good friends in the Bureau who -in my experience- have always tried to do what is morally and lawfully right.