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To: van_erwin; All

I find this statement unbelievable!

Why ..??

Because I’ve already heard Obama say that he doesn’t know if he’ll go to heaven.

IF YOU’RE A BELIEVER .. A PERSON WHO HAS RECEIVED JESUS AS THEIR SAVIOR .. YOU KNOW YOU’RE GOING TO HEAVEN AND NOBODY CAN EVER TELL YOU DIFFERENTLY.

You can’t claim to be a Christian .. and not know where you will end your days.


76 posted on 03/06/2008 7:41:26 PM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: The greatest nation on the face of the earth.)
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To: CyberAnt

It is not unbelievable. Most if not all Roman Catholics, if they are honest, will tell you they are not sure they are going to heaven. They hope they are, but they are not certain of it. They will tell you it is presumptuous to assume that you will make it into heaven just because you believe in Jesus Christ and received Him as your personal Savior.

Protestants have the certain hope the Bible talks about.

Obama, being a member of a very liberal, borderline ‘Christian’ church, - I can understand why he isn’t sure. Their theology is extremely weak and is more about social politics rather than sound biblical teaching.


86 posted on 03/06/2008 7:55:45 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: CyberAnt
You can’t claim to be a Christian .. and not know where you will end your days.

Yes, we can that, too.
100 posted on 03/06/2008 8:27:11 PM PST by alecqss
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To: CyberAnt

I am guessing that he is trying to be fair to the agnostic crowd so that he doesn’t belittle anyone or stroke his ego. However, in so doing that he belittles the aspect that he is devout enough and good enough to not doubt that possibly there is a place in heaven for him. Religion is based on the cold, hard facts not the comfty cushion.

I do not insult him for doubting himself, but if you know a lot more about what somebody faithful believes than “The Messiah”, than he is really screwed. Hell, he could call Jesus Christ his favorite philosopher, just like President Bush did(who probably knows a lot more about his faith than Obama) and than tone it down to something a lot more, well, “secular”. I do find it a little bit offensive for him to ready the truth that voting for Partial Birth Abortion is a sign of doubt in the ability to go to heaven.

Maybe he knows something more than we know, and that he is Pro-Partial Birth, really a Muslim now that is the point of it. That he doubts going to heaven because he is not spiritually qualified and thereby makes the line a facade.

Hey, at least he didn’t slip on his tongue while saying that line. It could’ve been a lot worse(like Al Gore’s interpretation of our history)


108 posted on 03/06/2008 9:29:35 PM PST by Merta (They Call Me The Ranting Man)
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