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To: Will88

I agree with you completely. But his post is saying McCain would actually help stop amnesty. I’m saying there’s zero basis for that assumption and it’s dishonest to imagine it.


55 posted on 03/07/2008 12:11:41 AM PST by Bull Market (I will not vote for John McCain. Hillary's my girl!)
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To: Bull Market; Will88

You misread my post. I never said “McCain would actually help stop amnesty”, what I saying was that McCain’s election provides a more realistic scenario for us stopping and/or slowing down amnesty than an Obama election. The agents to stop amnesty after this election would be the same conservative Republicans who stopped it before. And the main reason for that difference would lay in the number of Republican Senators we keep in the 2008 election. There is a difference.

I would add this from McCain’s speech at CPAC; while McCain is not dropping support for amnesty, he’s more gunshy than Obama on it:
http://www.politicswest.com/2008_election/19362/transcript_john_mccains_cpac_speech

“Surely, I have held other positions that have not met with widespread agreement from conservatives. I won’t pretend otherwise nor would you permit me to forget it. On the issue of illegal immigration, a position which provoked the outspoken opposition of many conservatives, I stood my ground aware that my position would imperil my campaign. I respect your opposition for I know that the vast majority of critics to the bill based their opposition in a principled defense of the rule of law. And while I and other Republican supporters of the bill were genuine in our intention to restore control of our borders, we failed, for various and understandable reasons, to convince Americans that we were. I accept that, and have pledged that it would be among my highest priorities to secure our borders first, and only after we achieved widespread consensus that our borders are secure, would we address other aspects of the problem in a way that defends the rule of law and does not encourage another wave of illegal immigration.”

Note the wording ...

Only AFTER “we achieved widespread consensus that our borders are secure” MEANS that he is promising not to bring up ‘comprehensive’ reform on his agenda until we are agreed that the borders are secure. So we have at least 2 years of breathing room.

John McCain is not backing down from his position per se, but he is waving the white flag on pushing this, knowing how much it caused the base to revolt.

Meanwhile, Obama is for drivers licenses for illegal aliens, for chain migration without end, for turning the 12 million into citizens, and for the usual gasbag-phony sure-lets-secure-the-border-but-walls-are-mean-and-nasty view on border security.

End though McCain has been pretty bad on this issue, Obama manages to be worse.


64 posted on 03/07/2008 11:54:43 AM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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