"parents who fail to [comply with school enrollment laws] may be subject to a criminal complaint against them, found guilty of an infraction, and subject to imposition of fines or an order to complete a parent education and counseling program." Americans fought a war for independence, now it appears we need a revolution.
1 posted on
03/06/2008 1:31:15 PM PST by
fweingart
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To: SLB; hiredhand; ExTexasRedhead
Domestic enemies at work...........damn !
141 posted on
03/06/2008 3:47:06 PM PST by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.©)
To: fweingart
California Court: Children belong to the Reich, not to the breeders.....
143 posted on
03/06/2008 3:53:30 PM PST by
2harddrive
(...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
To: fweingart
We need federal legislation
that denies federal education funds
to states that do not recognize
a parents right to homeschool.
The Organic Right of American Parents to Provide Lifelong Education Act (Organic APPLE Act)
146 posted on
03/06/2008 4:05:14 PM PST by
Notwithstanding
("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - W? No, 'twas Sen. Hillary 9/12/01)
To: fweingart
These sons of bit*hes need to be thrown out by Impeachment if necessary.
What a disgrace.
147 posted on
03/06/2008 4:05:32 PM PST by
Finalapproach29er
(Dems will impeach Bush in 2008, they have nothing else. Mark my words.)
To: fweingart
The headline is wrong. Homeshooling is perfectly legal - the court did NOT impact current law whatsoever.
This article explains that the LA Slimes reported it wrong (gosh, the MSM got the facts wrong....) and now the bloggers are repeating that error.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1981585/posts
149 posted on
03/06/2008 4:14:46 PM PST by
Notwithstanding
("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - W? No, 'twas Sen. Hillary 9/12/01)
To: fweingart
Parents that homeschool are probably better off leaving Californicate anyway. Along with the other people that are leaving Cali's insanity in droves.
152 posted on
03/06/2008 4:28:25 PM PST by
varyouga
("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
To: fweingart
Hold on folks - this decision is nothing to be upset about.
(My credientials: I homeschool my children. I am a lawyer.)
The Supreme COurt of California actually issued two holdings:
1) there is no constitutional right to homeschool in CA (no court has ever found that to be true in CA and there is no legal basis to make the argument that such a right exists)
2) the parents in this case did not even attempt to follow the minimal requirements CA has for homeschool parents (which require parents to sign up as an independent school and sign an affidavit saying you are capable of teaching your kids English and other subjects).
Here is the money quote from the actual court opinion:
“The trial courts reason for declining to order public or private schooling for the children was its belief that parents have a constitutional right to school their children in their own home. However, California courts have held that under provisions in the Education Code, parents do not have a constitutional right to home school their children. Thus, while the petition for extraordinary writ asserts that the trial courts refusal to order attendance in a public or private school was an abuse of discretion, we find the refusal was actually an error of law. It is clear to us that enrollment and attendance in a public full-time day school is required by California law for minor children unless (1) the child is enrolled in a private full-time day school and actually attends that private school, (2) the child is tutored by a person holding a valid state teaching credential for the grade being taught, or (3) one of the other few statutory
exemptions to compulsory public school attendance (Ed. Code, § 48220 et seq.) ***[[Editor’s note: the low-hurdle homeschool provisions]]*** applies to the child. Because the parents in this case have not demonstrated that any of these exemptions apply to their children, we will grant the petition for extraordinary writ.”
154 posted on
03/06/2008 4:29:24 PM PST by
Notwithstanding
("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - W? No, 'twas Sen. Hillary 9/12/01)
To: fweingart
Finally, the contest is simply the State versus the People.
States pass, people and earth abide.
157 posted on
03/06/2008 4:34:51 PM PST by
headsonpikes
(Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
To: fweingart
All of the parents of the 166,000 need to firmly resist this ruling. It must be a very tight united front.
I have heard of several homeschool organizations in California. I have not yet seen any responses from any of these.
To: fweingart
What is Being Taught
In the Government Schools?
The Religion of
HUMANISM
http://www.lex-rex.com/humanism.html
It has been profoundly observed that “The highest art of war is not to fight at all, but to subvert your enemy by destroying his moral principles, his religion, his culture, and the traditional links between individuals and society. When a country is demoralized, you can take it over painlessly, without firing a shot.”
Alexander Solzhenitsyn put it this way, “The strength or weakness of a society depends more on the level of its spiritual life than on its level of industrialization. Neither a market economy nor even general abundance constitutes the crowning achievement of human life. If a nation’s spiritual energies have been exhausted, it will not be saved from collapse by the most perfect government structure or by any industrial development. A tree with a rotten core cannot stand.”
The French nobleman Alexis De Tocqueville visited America in the last century and upon observing our people and their churches he said, “America is great because America is good. When America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”
170 posted on
03/06/2008 5:20:22 PM PST by
Earthdweller
(All reality is based on faith in something...)
To: fweingart
Well, how else can kids learn that homosexuality is fun, sane, cool and righteous?
And that their parents are bigoted Neanderthals?
174 posted on
03/06/2008 5:56:10 PM PST by
Bullish
( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
To: fweingart
My mother taught me more in my first 5 years of life, than the schools taught me up untill the 2nd grade. I knew all by colors, shapes, numbers, letters. I could read and wrtie and do simple math as well. I have also been able to learn more on my own then I ever learned in public school.
187 posted on
03/06/2008 6:29:53 PM PST by
LukeL
To: fweingart
This won’t survive a substantive due process attack. SCOTUS precedent form cases such as Meyers v. Nebraska and Pierce v. Society of Sisters will allow for homeschooling. The Court has recognized a fundamental right to privacy in matters such as the rearing of children which includes education.
Any there any attorneys posting on this story?
188 posted on
03/06/2008 6:30:04 PM PST by
conservativeinferno
(My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
To: fweingart
189 posted on
03/06/2008 6:35:11 PM PST by
tutstar
(Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
To: fweingart
I though we had another thread that said that this didn’t make home schooling illegal but made it so home school teachers had to get certified.
191 posted on
03/06/2008 6:39:41 PM PST by
gondramB
(Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
To: fweingart
192 posted on
03/06/2008 6:44:01 PM PST by
Guenevere
(If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
To: fweingart
Dr. Dobson Outraged by California Ruling Banning
Home Schooling
by Jennifer Mesko, managing editor
Focus chairman calls it an 'all-out assault on the family.'
A state appeals court has decided California parents without teaching credentials do not have a right to home-school their children.
The 2nd District Court of Appeals ruling could affect up to 200,000 home-schooled students in the state.
The court is guilty of an imperious assault on the rights of parents, said Dr. James Dobson, founder and chairman of Focus on the Family. How dare these judges have the audacity to label tens of thousands of parents criminals the equivalent to drug dealers or pickpockets because they want to raise and educate their children according to their deeply held values?
"The case before them involved one couple the ruling should have been confined to that one couple, not used to punish an entire class of people, the vast majority of them religious conservatives.
According to the Home School Legal Defense Association, California is set to become the only state to deny the vast majority of home schooling parents their fundamental right to teach their children at home. The group will file an amicus brief in the case.
Dr. Dobson said Focus on the Family will do whatever it can to get the ruling overturned and to restore the basic rights of parents in California to determine how their children are educated.
This is an all-out assault on the family, and it must be met with a concerted effort to defend parents and their children, he said. We will team with key allies and use every means at our disposal to make sure that not just every Californian, but every American, is aware of this miscarriage of justice. We will encourage them, by the hundreds of thousands, to make their voices heard on this matter.
"And were hopeful that, in the end, common sense and legal sanity will prevail.
Dr. Dobson will discuss the ruling on his Friday radio broadcast.
Candi Cushman, education analyst for Focus on the Family Action, said the court's timing is horrible.
"This takes away recourse from thousands of parents in California who want to escape the government-enforced indoctrination in public schools," she said. "The Legislature recently passed a law that basically ensures that students get a one-sided, positive portrayal of homosexuality and same-sex 'marriage.' "
TAKE ACTION
We are asking concerned citizens across America to sign a petition asking the state Supreme Court to "depublish" the case, which means to apply the case to the family involved not to all California families.
LISTEN TO THE BROADCAST
Dr. Dobson will discuss the California ruling on his Friday radio broadcast. Find a station or listen online.
198 posted on
03/06/2008 7:17:04 PM PST by
XR7
To: fweingart
This asinine ruling will last about five minutes when it gets to the SCOTUS.
205 posted on
03/06/2008 7:52:38 PM PST by
Emperor Palpatine
("There is no civility, only politics.")
To: fweingart
Horrible, horrible decision.
Submit your children to the indoctrination center immediately compliments of the NEA.
209 posted on
03/06/2008 8:48:03 PM PST by
GVnana
("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
To: fweingart
Homeschooling today!
Homeschooling tomorrow!
Homeschooling forever!
(That’s all I wanted to say. The account had expired for inactivity, so I had to reregister it.)
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