Posted on 03/05/2008 6:38:02 PM PST by Rebeleye
Does the Confederate battle flag represent heritage or hatred? The answer is yes. It represents a heritage that included hatred.
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You also inappropriately presume that everyone thinks living in the south is a blessing.
The South is indeed home, and it’s history - American history, is awe inspiring. The customs, the love of America, the above average rate of military service, and the independent people that insist on the freedom-deferring governance that is predominant here is a source of pride, an incubator of great leaders, and an excellent model for the rest of America to follow.
Oookay...
I’m sure Kansas is ok, too.
I doubt you'll ever know.
Hey! He's on a roll. Don't confuse him with facts.
“You also inappropriately presume that everyone thinks living in the south is a blessing.”
You disagree?
Yeah. So what?
“Yeah. So what?”
I’m sorry you’ve been denied the blessing of living in the South, that’s what.
How many times do I have to remind you of the effect of wartime inflation and the increase in tariff rates? Northern custom revenue raised from dutiable goods in 1863 was 63.7 million dollars. [Source: Taussig, Table 1].
When expressed in constant 1860 dollars, the 1863 customs revenue was actually around 50% of the 1860 customs revenue. I've posted this to you before. And this revenue was achieved with a 66% increase in the effective overall tariff rate on all dutiable goods from 1860 to 1863 [see Taussig, Table 1].
Sugar. I found a price of raw sugar of 6.5 cents per pound in 1861 in New York [Source: Appleton's Annual Cyclopedia for 1865]. On top of that were imposed taxes of 2 to 4 cents per pound in 1861 depending on the condition of the sugar (brown, lump, refined, syrup). The New York sugar price was 10 cents a pound in 1863. I don't know what the sugar duty had been raised to by that point in time.
Cotton. The price of cotton at New York increased from 11 cents per pound in 1860 to 68 cents per pound in 1863 [Source: Appleton's Annual Cyclopedia for 1865]. No wonder Northern manufacturers started switching to wool after the war started. Raw cotton was exempt from import duty in 1861, but a duty of a a half cent a pound plus 10% ad valorem tax was imposed in 1862. Cotton goods, of course, paid a higher duty.
Wool. Wool increased in price by 50% from 1860 to 1863. [Source: Appleton's Annual Cyclopedia for 1865].
Taussig provides this tariff information: "The compensating system was retained in the acts of 1862 and 1864. During the war, it is needless to say, the duties on wool and woollens were considerably raised. ... The wool chiefly imported and chiefly used by our manufacturers was that of the second class, costing between twelve and twenty- four cents per pound, and paying a duty of six cents. The compensating duty on woollens was therefore raised in 1864 to twenty- four cents per pound of cloth. The ad-valorem (protective) duty on woollens had been raised to forty per cent."
Wool? From the South?
You've got to work on your reading composition. The wool was a replacement item whose import to the North was made necessary by the loss of Southern cotton. By the way, wool imports quadrupled from 1860 to 1862 [Source: Link].
But I wasn't. I was stationed down there for almost 9 years. It wasn't bad and I have a lot of good memories of my time down there. But I have no desire to live there again. Sorry if that bothers you.
Thank God for we southerners.
“But I wasn’t. was stationed down there for almost 9 years.”
Well then, at least you were blessed for a time. (I knew you’d come around!)
“But I have no desire to live there again. Sorry if that bothers you.”
It absolutely does not bother me. Somebody has to live in Kansas and contemplate “Civil War” vs. “Rebellion”.
Nope. Just went home.
Most of the plains and Rocky Mountain states were voting Republican when the South was still drooling over the Democrat-du-jure. It is absolutely amazing how you people can come late to the party and then claim you organized the whole affair. Southerners have absolutely no shame.
Correcting Southern misconceptions viz-a-viz the rebellion is a dirty rotten job. But you're correct, someone has to do it.
It depends on where you’re stationed. Some of the south is heaven. Other parts of the south, not so good. I think that’s true of most regions. Texas is traditionally south in the southeastern part of the state, very much Arizona type conservative in the western, and more midwest in the northern panhandle. The valley is Tex-Mex, and always has been. Photographing high school sports for small towns, the cultural differences can be pretty astounding. When Elysian Fields (southeast) played Canadian (northern panhandle) for the state 2A title, the cultural differences were pronounced. EF was more typical Southeastern smack talking, declaring they would knock out teeth and beat the other teams into submission. They’re unofficial slogan was, “Do you fear us now? GOOD!” Canadian, being from a part of the state where standing on the same carpet is getting pretty darned close just answered with “We’ll be there” and was relatively quiet. Canadian ended up killing EF, btw.
My dad helped organize the first Republican party (at least since reconstruction times) in the Georgia county where we lived in the 1950s and served as its first chairman. Later he served as a Republican county chairman in Kansas. Imagine the shame of those Kansans selecting a Southerner as county chairman. Not enough home grown talent, I guess.
Hey asswipe.... was I even talking to you? Bug off , and put me on your “do-not-respond” list
N-S..aka “cut ‘n paste idiot”, doesn’t realize that people like myself, started as registered Southern Republicans when we were old enough to vote. In my case 1975.
Another fine example of that Southern Courtesy that we hear so much about. Are you sure you're not from New Jersey?
“Southerners have absolutely no shame.”
You really need to get over your inferiority complex with regards to the South. There are some things you just have to live with, and your constant whining about us Southerners is really getting pitiful.
We have Southern Pride....I already told you why in a previous post to which you responded. What really seems to piss you off is that you want us to have shame, like you.
It’s not gonna happen, so just accept that you are inferior to the vast majority of us Southerners in culture, patriotism, ingenuity, leadership, and hard work and move on with your life. It’s ok, not everyone gets to be a Southerner.
So let me guess. He moved to Kansas because that way he could actually live in a state that gave it's electoral votes to Republican candidates?
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