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Not My Shower: Breaking Biological Barriers
Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 3/5/2008 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 03/05/2008 10:19:26 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

Mary Ann Andree was drying her hair in the Rio Sport and Health Club in Gaithersburg, Maryland, last month when the door to the women’s locker room suddenly opened. In came a man, wearing a blue ruffled skirt and make-up.

As Andree later told reporters, “I was very upset. There is a lot he could have seen.” Andree is far from alone. A lot of other women in Montgomery County, Maryland, are upset over a new law that demands co-ed locker rooms and bathrooms in all public accommodations.

Montgomery County, adjacent to Washington, D.C., passed the law last November to accommodate “transgendered people”—that is, men who perceive themselves to be women, and women who perceive themselves to be men. The law adds gender identity to the list of protected classes to the Montgomery County Code banning discrimination.

In effect, it means men will have full access to a woman’s restroom and locker room. A woman taking a shower after her aerobics class might look up to find a man turning on the shower next to hers. A little girl using a movie theater restroom will now have to worry that a strange man might walk in.

Michelle Turner, who leads a citizens group opposing the law, says, “Any biological male who is willing to wear a dress and who is feeling transgendered at that particular moment can enter the ladies room or locker room.”

And what is to stop non-transgendered men from entering the ladies’ room? Nothing. A child molester or rapist could put on a dress and go right in. So could pornographists. It is an appalling, shocking law. And get this: There is no exemption for religious schools, book stores, churches, and daycares. As Turner notes, “The act will use the force of law to make these organizations accept transgenders, transvestites, and cross-dressers as employees.”

The American Psychiatric Association classifies gender identity disorder as a mental disorder. Supporters of the Montgomery County law refuse to accept this, and they have decided that you and I are not going to be allowed to accept it, either. Dana Beyer, a “transgendered” person employed by the Montgomery County Council, says that if you believe that XY chromosomes and male genitalia make someone male, you are a bigot.

In effect, transgendered persons are demanding that Montgomery County erase the distinctions between males and females. Make no mistake: This is not about the need for co-ed bathrooms. This law is simply being used to normalize gender identity disorder—much in the same way the gay lobby uses laws to normalize homosexuality.

Montgomery County officials passed this law despite the fact that citizens opposed it by an eight-to-one margin. The good news is that concerned citizens have gathered enough signatures to put the issue on the November ballot.

But Montgomery County is not the only jurisdiction passing laws like these. Check out what your own local leaders are doing to protect your privacy rights. And parents, make sure your kids know the difference between the Christian view of sexuality and that being propagated by those who think they ought to be allowed to choose their gender and their bathroom.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: breakpoint; homosexualagenda; montgomerycounty; moralabsolutes; perverts; politicalcorrectness; unisex
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To: Mr. Silverback
I have a transgendered person in my family, and I want to first acknowledge that people with this disorder go through a great amount of mental anguish and always have my sympathy.

My sympathy and prayers to you and your family. Mental illnesses are tragic. Not well understood, nor treated.
But you right, although this is a burden that the person (and family) will have to bare, there really is no sense in pretending its 'normal'. Nor allowing this nonsense of providing equal access to common bathroom/shower facilities because someone with this affliction 'feels' better in women's clothing. Don't ridicule the person -- but don't delude him into believing that 'all is well' ... because it is not. Prayers, patience, and love are in order -- but not deceit.

21 posted on 03/05/2008 10:47:40 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Mr. Silverback
In part, this shows the power of language (mainly it demonstrates stupidity).

Self-styled “progressives” made substituted “gender” for “sex” — on the basis that “gender” is a social construct. They might be right about “gender” being a social construct — it’s all in how you define “gender” — but, they’ve taken it a step further, and now insist that “sex” is a social construct (rather than biologically determined).

If you are whatever “gender” you think you are (and, by extension, in the muddled logic of “progressives”, also whichever “sex” you wish to be at the moment), then — well then, for a start, you have no shower room barriers.

22 posted on 03/05/2008 10:48:03 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Mr. Silverback
American Psychiatric Association classifies gender identity disorder as a mental disorder

for now...

23 posted on 03/05/2008 10:48:23 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Mr. Silverback
Sounds like the Equal Opportunity For Perverts Act.

As we create more and more "rights" for shall we say the oddballs in society, we put them on equal footing with a normal lady using a restroom. Next thing that happens is the normal lady ends up in court having to "explain" why she is discriminating against the poor oddball who just wants to be treated like everyone else. So now your mom is a lawbreaker for thinking she is entitled to common decency.

24 posted on 03/05/2008 10:49:39 AM PST by Williams
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To: massgopguy
But they’re not bleeping giants are they?

No, they certainly aren't.

25 posted on 03/05/2008 10:50:23 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
"...last month when the door to the women’s locker room suddenly opened. In came a man, wearing a blue ruffled skirt and make-up."He was looking for his sister.


26 posted on 03/05/2008 10:51:16 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Well, the point of the locker room is to change from street clothes into the gym shorts and t-shirts.


27 posted on 03/05/2008 10:51:21 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: nina0113

The peeping tom is the one with the mirrors on his shoes. :-)


28 posted on 03/05/2008 10:52:28 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

29 posted on 03/05/2008 10:52:33 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: epluribus_2

Apparently it’s a real disorder and deserving of some compassion, but the left is making us conform to everyone who has a disorder. I have seen this in court and believe me in the eyes of the law the average citizen is treated as the narrow minded misanthropic bigot and is greeted with lots of suspicious, knowing looks by the judge. We definitely are discriminating AGAINST the average or normal person.


30 posted on 03/05/2008 10:53:27 AM PST by Williams
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To: Mr. Silverback

But we’ve been told that troops have nothing to fear from showering with men who suffer from same sex desire.


31 posted on 03/05/2008 10:53:42 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
“Any biological male who is willing to wear a dress and who is feeling transgendered at that particular moment can enter the ladies room or locker room.”

When you remove the dress, you remove the claim to being a crossdressed "woman". We are born naked. The desire to wear the clothes of the other sex is psychological and cultural, not genetic.

32 posted on 03/05/2008 10:55:18 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!! Now I can show my appreciation to my Scottish ancestors and look at naked chicks. Where's this place at????


33 posted on 03/05/2008 10:56:49 AM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: 353FMG

Yes, it is. The force of law is going to be directed at the churches and hospitals. We are soon going to find out if American Christians deserve freedom. I’d note that one hospital in Puerto Rico cannot perform abortions because the entire nursing staff said they would not assist.


34 posted on 03/05/2008 10:57:14 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
So let me get this straight, if I walk in the ladies' dressing room as a (reasonably) normal guy and just want to be in there, I will probably be arrested as a pervert invading the privacy of the ladies.

But if I put on a skirt and waltz in to check out the ladies, because I have the additional layer of being a man in a dress, they better not discriminate against me?

Just wow.

35 posted on 03/05/2008 10:59:19 AM PST by Williams
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To: Mr. Silverback
I think we need to have a constitutional amendment that gives the people the right to discriminate, in personal affairs, in commerce and in public accommodation for whatever reason they deem necessary.
36 posted on 03/05/2008 11:00:05 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Williams
"...But if I put on a skirt and waltz in to check out the ladies, because I have the additional layer of being a man in a dress, they better not discriminate against me?"

That's correct. There's no such thing as a free lunch. It's only fair that you're required to give the ladies a show in return.

37 posted on 03/05/2008 11:05:23 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Dan Evans

The Freedom to associate precludes the Freedom not to associate. The SCOTUS has already ruled this.


38 posted on 03/05/2008 11:06:26 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Didn't CA pass something like this statewide a while ago? Dunno when it takes effect.

But I feel a "transgendered" moment coming on as soon as I can grab a flight to MD.

Takes a real dope to pass a law like this.

But, they get what they vote for. Vote for a patriotic, Christian conservative who respects life or morality and that's what you get. Vote for an anti-American, athiest lib who has no respect for life or morality and that's what you get.

39 posted on 03/05/2008 11:08:17 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
There are a lot of people who genuinely are anatomically and/or genetically transgendered

The medical term for that is intersex, which has nothing at all to do with being gay.

40 posted on 03/05/2008 11:10:49 AM PST by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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