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To: reaganator
The total of McCain and Huckleby votes in Ohio yesterday were approximately 955,000.

The total of Obama and Clinton votes in Ohio yesterday were approximately 2,150,000.

There's one major red state that will be going blue in November, and with it, a probable electoral college lock for the Democrat.

31 posted on 03/05/2008 9:05:30 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“There’s one major red state that will be going blue in November, and with it, a probable electoral college lock for the Democrat.”

It’s not hard to figure out. Ohio is going to be blue if the Dem candidate is Bozo the Clown.
Many references to here Ohio being “utterly depressed”. It’s true. For years the comments about the great economy have not been true for Ohio. And when I mention it, the kind of freeper replies I get are something like:

“Are you typing on a computer? Is your electicity on?”
“You’re doing fine, what’s your complaint?”
“Suck it up, Ohio needs to work harder.”

And of course:

“See what a Democrat governor does?”

Except Bob Taft (R), was responsible for much devistation, and corruption.

I think it’s going to be time to pay the piper this November. Ohio will be very blue.


72 posted on 03/05/2008 9:42:44 AM PST by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Mr. Jeeves wrote:

There’s one major red state(Ohio) that will be going blue in November, and with it, a probable electoral college lock for the Democrat.

Not so fast. Polling in Ohio has Obama leading McCain, by only a point or 2. Hillary polls better against McCain. Either way about 20% of the state is undecided,this state is a toss up or leans blue. McCain can win this though.

78 posted on 03/05/2008 9:56:27 AM PST by skully (Conservatives...carrying the GOP since 1980)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I wouldn't put too much weight on those primary numbers. The Democrat's race is close. The Republican one was pretty much already over.

Crossover voting, and apathy likely kept the Republican numbers lower that they will be in the general election.

However, I do agree that McCain is going to have a hard time carrying Ohio.

The Dems are successfully playing up renegotiating NAFTA. NAFTA has contributed very little to Ohio's loss of manufacturing jobs, but since when does reality matter in regards to politics.

Ohio's economy is hurting, and the Dems are suggesting that they will help solve that, and McCain doesn't seem to be convincing many people that he will help address that problem better than the Democrats.

I think that Ohio having the 5th highest tax burden of any state in the nation has more to do with bleeding manufacturing jobs than anything else. Even when new American manufacturing jobs are being created, they are unlikely to be in Ohio. Even if the American economy as a whole does better, we're going to have fix our own problems at the state level if we want to see the same benefits as other states, but that's not what people want to hear from presidential candidates.

They want a quick fix, and that's what Democrats are promising.

101 posted on 03/05/2008 11:12:17 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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