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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Sadly what Mr Sowell is saying also apply to a significant number of Freepers who rail against illegal immigrants who “steal our jobs”.

Not that I’m for illegal immigration, but we have to recognize that a large part of the reason they are here is because employers who wish to avoid being burdened by cost-creating regulations passed by politicians are actively hiring illegals instead of citizen. That these regulations are what’s creating the demand in the economy for illegal aliens.

Minimum wage, workman’s comp, family leave, etc, are all free lunches that the politicians tried to give to the public to buy their votes, and once again, those lunch do have a long term cost.

Want to really stop the illegal problem? Repeal those laws. A wall may stop some of them, but not nearly as many as fewer employment prospects will.


6 posted on 03/03/2008 8:14:03 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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There is certainly alot of truth in what you type. My position has long been that if you want to stop the flow of illegal aliens, stop paying welfare and other benefits to able-bodied American citizens. Hunger and lack of shelter are powerful motivators. We could have a whole new labor force within a year.
10 posted on 03/03/2008 8:21:13 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Truthsearcher

I think the best way to deal with the illegal problem is to get tough on mexico’s corruption problem.

mexico is not exactly a libertarian country but taxes and govt spending are pretty low and people go there all the time for prescription drugs because there is less regulation.

The corruption is like a big tax that makes it hard for their economy to function and that’s why so many try to cross our border in the first place.

I’m not concerned about illegals stealing jobs. I think that argument deserves to be shot down quickly. The problem is they are taking up too much govt resources and they are a threat to our culture and social stability. of course, that also applies to legal immigration as well. Look at Europe, especially scandinavia.


12 posted on 03/03/2008 8:35:12 PM PST by ari-freedom (Obama on the islamic call to prayer: ''one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset'')
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To: Truthsearcher
"A wall may stop some of them, but not nearly as many as fewer employment prospects will. "

OK that far, the rest of your post is crap.

Unions and entitlements are indeed a significant part of the downfall we are sharing...

Illegal aliens are another issue.
Dump the unions? OK.
Transfer the jobs to illegals?
Not on your freaking life!

Allowed to do so, most union members would take the job and hang the union out to dry.
The true believers quit working years ago and should be put out to graze, far out.

The jobs that ARE available need to go to Americans, people willing to work to become Americans, and people that America needs to maintain its position...not to wetbacks. ("Undocumented" if that sounds better to you)

The jobs that are available do not require terrorists to fill them in between (oh yeah!) acts of terrorism.

Coyotes and drug smugglers already have well paying jobs, they don't need any more help.

Undoing unions and undoing the paternalistic society mandated by government labor laws may be an admirable goal,
it is NOT an avenue to amnesty.

25 posted on 03/03/2008 10:17:39 PM PST by norton
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To: Truthsearcher

> Sadly what Mr Sowell is saying also apply to a significant number of Freepers who rail against illegal immigrants who “steal our jobs”. <

Not to mention the anti-free-trade, Buchananite FReepers most of us know too well.

But then, one doesn’t expect them to read or items by Thomas Sowell!


40 posted on 03/04/2008 2:50:51 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Truthsearcher
>"a large part of the reason they are here is because employers who wish to avoid being burdened by cost-creating regulations passed by politicians"

Capitalism's way of competing with Chinese slave labor wages?

46 posted on 03/04/2008 6:26:21 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Glittering prizes, and endless compromises, shatter the illusion of integrity!)
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To: Truthsearcher

—Minimum wage, workman’s comp, family leave, etc, are all free lunches that the politicians tried to give to the public to buy their votes, and once again, those lunch do have a long term cost.—

American workers do not wish to be treated like medieval serfs. Big business, it seems, likes to employ serfs, that’s why there is so much outsourcing.


49 posted on 03/07/2008 6:50:14 AM PST by paleorite
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