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To: PeterFinn

People should read the whole article. He doesnt advocate open borders. What he is arguing is that you can be for enforcement in ways that dont drive immigrant groups to the Democrats:

“A Republican president could order the Justice Department to enforce the law while publicly advocating more legal immigration. Republicans should quietly enforce the law and loudly argue for greater quotas and a streamlined, less bureaucratic system to enable legal immigration. Likewise, Republicans could put in place a more aggressive program to help Americanize and mainstream immigrants.”

In other words, instead of noisy anti-immigration rhetoric and little action, have a lot more anti-immigration action and a lot less rhetoric.

Frankly, that’s a change that would work for the better.

His point is:
“Republicans will never have an opportunity to lead on this issue or any other if they do not tone down the rhetoric, however. Eroding Republican support among Latino voters threatens to freeze Republicans into minority status for another 50 years.”

We should consider how to stand on law-and-order ground and hold to anti-illegal immigration positions in ways that do not lead to that situation.


72 posted on 03/03/2008 6:17:01 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: WOSG

>>“A Republican president could order the Justice Department to enforce the law while publicly advocating more legal immigration.<<

Yes, a president could, but are you talking about McCain?

In other words, instead of noisy anti-immigration rhetoric and little action, have a lot more anti-immigration action and a lot less rhetoric.<<

Again, do you really believe that McCain is for “anti-immigration action?”


75 posted on 03/03/2008 7:10:03 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: WOSG; PeterFinn
>People should read the whole article.

Fair enough. I have, so lets go...

> He doesnt advocate open borders. What he is arguing is that you can be for enforcement in ways that dont drive immigrant groups to the Democrats:

Switched. Not the subject, but I understand your point.
We are talking about McCain here.
Unless I missed something, the article is about thanking GOD that we have McCain.

>“A Republican president could order the Justice Department to enforce the law while publicly advocating more legal immigration.

Yeah, and my Aunt could be my uncle if she had balls instead of boobs.
Lets see. We have had a “compassionate conservative” running the executive branch for 8 years and the entire Congress controlled by a majority GOP party for 6 of 8 years and where oh where did that get us?

It got us McCain/Kennedy, and the attempt by McCain to ram amnesty right down our throats, time after time.
We are talking about McCain here, right?

Why should I believe that he will act differently once he assumes ultimate power in the executive?

> Likewise, Republicans could put in place a more aggressive program to help Americanize and mainstream immigrants.”

LOL! See above.

>In other words, instead of noisy anti-immigration rhetoric and little action, have a lot more anti-immigration action and a lot less rhetoric.

Baloney. The pro immigrant forces - and there are many of them - and the democrat party will NEVER allow such a scenario to occur. Ever.
It will be 100% the first priority until they can get enough votes to pass amnesty in incremental steps until a critical mass of non American democrat voters can take control of this system.

Did NOBODY hear Lopez get on-stage and scream for Latinos to “take control” of America??

>His point is:
“Republicans will never have an opportunity to lead on this issue or any other if they do not tone down the rhetoric, however. Eroding Republican support among Latino voters threatens to freeze Republicans into minority status for another 50 years.”

My point is:
Allowing massive immigration of Latinos is doing exactly that. - Right now.

>We should consider how to stand on law-and-order ground and hold to anti-illegal immigration positions in ways that do not lead to that situation.

Door, horse, barn on fire. - That very situation is already here!

In conclusion, I understand the concept of quiet control, but I also know that this has never, and will never, be achieved as long as there is political gain to be harvested by pandering to the very vocal and active opponents of the exact opposite.

Thank you for the opportunity to reply. - bill

110 posted on 03/04/2008 5:17:42 AM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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