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Posted on 03/03/2008 4:24:08 AM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: joebuck
But, Romans is a pretty tough read to start newbies on without a mentor or some type of guidance. And the help of the Holy Spirit.

Agreed. But the people I'm talking about are not exactly newbies. They are members of my family who grew up (as I did) in an apostate denomination (PCUSA) and (if they are like I was) really need to see the Truth of the Gospel. I spent many years saying I was a Christian without understanding that Christ died for me.

marinamuffy

81 posted on 03/03/2008 8:43:45 AM PST by marinamuffy (I'm no fan of McCain but I'll crawl over broken glass to vote against Hillary or the Obamanation.)
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To: sirchtruth
Why do people misquote and misuse this scripture as an example of trying to tell people you can not judge others? It's ridiculous!

Thank You! One of my pet peeves. Of course those that just mindlessly tout the "judge not..." mantra never really think it out. Every day, all day long, we make judgments. Product A is made better than B. Person A works better/harder/smarter than person B. School A is better than school B. And on and on.

"Attention employees: We will not be giving out any bonuses or raises, since to do so, we would have to judge your work performance, and the Sermon on the Mount says not to judge others...."

82 posted on 03/03/2008 8:54:23 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: marinamuffy
"I spent many years saying I was a Christian without understanding that Christ died for me."

I bet that was one heck of an "Wow" moment when God finally opened your eyes and revealed the secrets of the Kingodom of Heaven.

83 posted on 03/03/2008 9:09:47 AM PST by joebuck
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To: joebuck
I bet that was one heck of an "Wow" moment when God finally opened your eyes and revealed the secrets of the Kingodom of Heaven.

Yes and no. It wasn't a particular moment when I realized, more like a process...but now when I look back and see what I have compared with what I didn't even know I was missing, it's definitely "WOW" inspiring! And that's an understatement :-)

84 posted on 03/03/2008 10:48:27 AM PST by marinamuffy (I'm no fan of McCain but I'll crawl over broken glass to vote against Hillary or the Obamanation.)
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To: AmericaUnited
What will it take for SOMEONE, either the Clintons, McCain, ANYBODY to start roughing this guy up and exposing him, at whatever the cost, to alert the American people in general and the koolaid drinking idiots who support him in particular of the danger this guy presents? Maybe some of his supporters can be reached, but just to shine the light of scrutiny on him with no fear of the pc rules and the cotton wool that he seems to be wrapped up in. If trends continue as they are, we’re in for a cataclysmic wrong turn in direction as a nation.
85 posted on 03/03/2008 10:57:39 AM PST by RedCobra
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To: elpadre

Interesting, but tell me, when have you had nine Sundays after Epiphany?


86 posted on 03/03/2008 11:30:57 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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To: BelegStrongbow

“.... when have you had nine Sundays after Epiphany?”

I’ll bite! - when??


87 posted on 03/03/2008 12:25:19 PM PST by elpadre
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To: Sub-Driver
1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world....And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. (1 John 4:1;3)

Barak Obama is as close to the Antichrist as he can get without being the real thing.

If he is elected president, I will know that there is such a blindness and deception in this country that there is no going back and we are finished.

He is only the precursor of what is to come.

88 posted on 03/03/2008 1:51:58 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta (<SO)
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To: Marysecretary
That’s interesting. How do you come to that conclusion? I’m sincerely wondering.

Were you referring to this POST?

89 posted on 03/03/2008 2:33:23 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place

Yes, the one talking about judging. M


90 posted on 03/03/2008 2:55:01 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary
Judge not, lest ye be judged: is that not scriptural?

Mary, go back and read again what I wrote. I think you might have missed my point.

Yes, it is scriptural, but it doesn't mean what people want to try to make it out to mean. The scripture does not mean you can not judge others. It just means by whatever means you judge someone expect the same kind of judgement to come back on yourself.

In essence Yeshua is saying be careful about how you judge others.

91 posted on 03/03/2008 3:43:24 PM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: 6SJ7

Well I suppose Brokeback mountain does qualify as a “mount”(no pun intended)...


92 posted on 03/03/2008 3:51:47 PM PST by Xenophon450 (I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
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To: elpadre

Can’t imagine, but the ‘79 BCP has propers for that many, not to mention 29 weeks after Trinity. Just gotta wonder, sometimes, it seems.


93 posted on 03/03/2008 4:57:05 PM PST by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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To: Marysecretary
There are many similar interpretation of this passage. Which Christian denominational spin interests you?
94 posted on 03/03/2008 4:57:33 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place

I was interested in YOUR spin on it.


95 posted on 03/03/2008 7:05:22 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: sirchtruth

Our church pastors have taught that very same thing. I believe it. I am concerned with the way Christians on here judge other Christians (read televangelists). We are to judge one another when we see someone in sin, but not to just sit back and criticize everyone they don’t like. Go to a person and speak to them. If they turn you down, take someone else with you. If they still turn you away, then the Bible expects they should be thrown out of the church until they repent. But this constant bickering back and forth about Hagee, Warren, Osteen and others is just wrong, IMHO. If we don’t like them, we need to pray for them.

Thank you for your answer.


96 posted on 03/03/2008 7:15:29 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: dennisw
Obama— Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t

Barack Insane Obama.

97 posted on 03/03/2008 8:04:43 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: Marysecretary
I was interested in YOUR spin on it.

I already stated my opinion which is a paraphrase of many mainline Christian thoughts on "judging..."

"How do you come to that conclusion?"

Conclusion is from multiple sources but tell me which Christian denomination and I can provide a more relevant answer.

98 posted on 03/03/2008 8:05:56 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place

Well, I’m in a non denomination church so that probably wouldn’t help you, but protestant would be as close as I could get on that.


99 posted on 03/04/2008 6:08:04 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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