Hume has it right, McCain might not be what we wanted but he dang sure is better than the alternative and this is not the time for us to make a statement to the Republican party. Way too much at stake for our country to have eight years of a socialist.
> Way too much at stake for our country to have eight years of a socialist.
I don’t think a ‘Rat rule would last more than 4 years.
Listen: I am probably going to hold my nose this election cycle and do as the RNC and Brit Hume want us to - Bend over. Suck it up. Vote for Juan McCain and puke on the way home. But I won’t SHUT UP. And the RNC, Brit and other power-besotted RINOs who hate conservatives can bite me if that’s what they want.
McAmnesty “might not be what we wanted?” The lesser of two evils is...
Hume isn’t a conservative, so he should keep his RINO trap shut. As for Kristol, he sold conservatives out many years ago. His father was a neocon, and he’s a neocon. What’s most irritating about Kristol is, the MNM give him a forum as though he represents US when in fact he’s the very vile thing we loathe and detest. I think they have him on their shows just to annoy us. Kristol is everything that is wrong with the GOP—arrogant, self-righteous and so forth. Come to think of it, so is McLame...
and I say again -
Right.
Time to put our inflated egos in our back pockets and sit on it.
"We stand together or we fall apart" mt
We stop the infighting or get ready to be surfs under Socialist/Marxist rule.
and I say again -
Right.
Time to put our inflated egos in our back pockets and sit on it.
"We stand together or we fall apart" mt
We stop the infighting or get ready to be surfs under Socialist/Marxist rule.
Don’t tell that to org.whodat... He drank the Obama Kool-aid and would rather stick up for his BOY... then to support a Republican that has fought for Conservative issues for over 20 years in the Senate... Apparently if you are not Pureist of the Pure Conservative ideologue you don’t get any support form Org.whodat.
Don’t tell that to org.whodat... He drank the Obama Kool-aid and would rather stick up for his BOY... then to support a Republican that has fought for Conservative issues for over 20 years in the Senate... Apparently if you are not Pureist of the Pure Conservative ideologue you don’t get any support form Org.whodat.
Don’t tell that to org.whodat... He drank the Obama Kool-aid and would rather stick up for his BOY and have a Socialist running the Country... then to support a Republican that has fought for Conservative issues for over 20 years in the Senate... Apparently if you are not Pureist of the Pure Conservative ideologue you don’t get any support form Org.whodat.
“Hume has it right, McCain might not be what we wanted but he dang sure is better than the alternative and this is not the time for us to make a statement to the Republican party. Way too much at stake for our country to have eight years of a socialist.”
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Thanks Moolah for bringing some sanity to this thread. It seems that many who disagree w/ Kristol and Hume’s assessment have not been paying attention to Obama’s socialist agenda.
I'm personally waiting for it to be okay for us to lose an election. You know the Democrats put somebody up at the RNC puts out a release, "This Guy's Not So Bad" Yep, I'll wait to send a message until Ben Nelson's the Democratic nominee. Or maybe, we can just never stand up for principle.
“and this is not the time for us to make a statement to the Republican party.”
Heard in ‘96 and ‘06. When IS a good time to make such a statement?
“and this is not the time for us to make a statement to the Republican party.”
Heard in ‘96 and ‘06. When IS a good time to make such a statement?
It's time the GOP got the clear message that they cannot continue acting like Democrats and then feel entitled to conservative support. If that means getting our noses bloodied in 2008, then it's a hard lesson for a mistake that the GOP will be loathe to repeat in 2010 and 2012.
I disagree. This is exactly the time to let McCain know he's pi$$ed a lot of us off with his voting record and his all-to-frequent willingness to "lean across the isle". He's been cohorts with too many liberals far too often and I really fail to see where his willingness to compromise has got the GOP one single floor vote. McCain seems to have lost the concept that compromise means you get something in return. I don't see that "return" for the GOP anywhere.
McCain still has to convince a lot of people that he's not a RINO and I reserve my right to bitch about it up to the minute I'm convinced he's not climbing into bed with the liberals...again. While I will likely vote for him in the final election, I still want him to know that he needs to mend his ways a lot before he earns my vote. Otherwise, I'll see the election as a true dilemma: Two choices, both bad.
Yes, this is going to outrage the “Let’s lose one for the Gipper!” crowd.
There is not a single shred of evidence that he would be any better. I will not vote for McCain.
There is way to much at stake to have the Republican party redefined in the image of John McCain. Voting for him is equal to saying that conservatives will support any Republican no matter what that Republican actually stands for.
There is so much wrong with this that it is hard to choose where to start. A Democrat president that the Republicans can actively oppose would not be worse than a liberal Republican who they would be called on to support while he sells out to the other side. When your team leader is playing for the other side, your team is going to lose, period.
I keep hearing the too much at stake crap like the next 4 years are more important than the next 50. That is the trade off. If McCain wins the conservatives can pack it in because they will never be a political force again. For the next 50 years your choice will be between outright socialist and just liberal. Nobody yet has told me why McCain would be superior for national defense when he will close Gitmo for image, restrict the interrogation of terrorists, clog the courts with enemy combatants under the guidance of the ACLU, and open the southern border. Where's the security part?
The trade off is not eight years. It took only 2 years after the first Clinton took office for the Conservatives to take over Congress. The result was Welfare reform, capital gains tax cuts and a balanced budget. For the last six years of his administration, Clinton achieved next to nothing on his agenda. His main focus was blocking the Republicans in Congress and keeping his butt in office. Liberal judges were appointed to replace liberal judges, the balance did not change.
If McCain wins you will get increases in the Democrats in Congress. You will get amnesty (sooner or later) after he window dresses the border security. You will get new restrictions on business (look at his history on the commerce committee... McCain is anti-business), you will get global warming crap. You will get more restrictions on energy production and even higher gas prices. You will get economic direction from someone who admittedly doesn't understand economics and has never had to. You will get moderate judges, remember Alito is too conservative. You will get a Commander in Chief who graduated at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy whose biggest claim to fame is getting shot down and captured. For four years you will have Republican who will sell you out to the Democrats time after time while the Republicans get blamed for anything that goes wrong. After that you will get Democrats for as many years as you can count. Conservatives will be done as a political force. When you throw away your principles and convictions, they are gone. You don't get to go back and pick them up later.