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How Blu-ray Can Replace the DVD (Process will require serious investment from the studios)
tvpredictions.com ^ | Feb. 29, 08 | Phillip Swann

Posted on 03/02/2008 3:47:26 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave

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1 posted on 03/02/2008 3:47:30 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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2 posted on 03/02/2008 3:48:18 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.)
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Sony & Toshiba Should Aid HD DVD Owners
HD DVD’s exit will leave a bad taste in the mouths of millions.
By Swanni

Washington, D.C. (February 28, 2008) — Toshiba has a moral responsibility to provide either a discount or refund for the nearly one million people who now own HD DVD players (standalone and XBox players.)

Toshiba, the leading company behind the HD DVD format, announced last week that it would exit the high-def disc business by the end of March, ceding victory to rival Blu-ray.

The decision means that current HD DVD players will soon be nearly obsolete; yes, they will still ‘upconvert’ standard-def DVDs, but the studios will stop releasing titles in the HD DVD format in the coming weeks.

Asked at a press conference last week about the current HD DVD audience, Toshiba officials basically shrugged their shoulders and said buyers knew what they were getting into — a high-def format war that would likely produce a loser.

However, that is unacceptable. HD DVD owners committed their hard earned dollars on a brand new technology, giving Toshiba an opportunity to succeed in the war. But Toshiba seems too broken up with its own misfortune to consider the plight of their customers.

At the least, Toshiba should offer HD DVD owners discounts on related Toshiba products, such as high-def sets.

Likewise, Sony, the company behind Blu-ray, has a responsibility here as well because its participation prolonged the format war, leading to more people buying HD DVD players.

In my view, Sony should offer HD DVD owners a discount on Blu-ray players. This would not only be the right thing to do — but it would keep a sizable number of high-def disc enthusiasts happy.

It would also send a signal to consumers that investing in a unproven technology is a shared risk, that people will not be left holding the bag.

If Toshiba and Sony fail to act, consumers may think twice — or three times — the next time they’re asked to buy a new electronics product.


3 posted on 03/02/2008 3:50:59 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Well, I have an HD-DVD. I did get it cheap (98 bucks at Wal-Mart). It up-verts nicely and I have about dozen HD-DVD movies.

It would be nice for Toshiba to allow a trade in, but I don’t expect it.


4 posted on 03/02/2008 3:57:28 AM PST by tje
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To: Las Vegas Dave

What a bunch of whiny sniveling.

Toshiba offers a product. The product fails. Yet, somehow, Toshiba is “morally responsible” to reimburse everyone who bought into the failed format. Yeah, right.

And I want $6.99 for every phonograph album I ever bought, too.


5 posted on 03/02/2008 4:01:25 AM PST by Pravious
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Simple: reduce the price of Blu-ray content.

There's been a rumor for the past week that they'll drop it down to the price of regular DVDs.

Unlikely because it's too simple and probably cheaper than the $400 million Sony paid Warner Bros. to go Blu.

6 posted on 03/02/2008 4:03:30 AM PST by Proud_texan (Stop global whining)
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"There's been a rumor for the past week that they'll drop it down to the price of regular DVDs."

Well I won't be buying Blu Rays till I can get used ones at the prices I buy Used DVDs now, further I've started to put some of our fav Movies on HD so we can just select and watch like we do our Music.

I hope the Blu Ray makers can come up with an acceptable way to place them on HDs (and still maintain their Digital Rights) Cause I can see now its the way to go being Hard Drives are getting so cheap.

7 posted on 03/02/2008 4:11:57 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Since Toshiba threw in the towel on HD-DVD, does this mean they will not be collecting royalties from the studios who use the format? It may now be cheaper to release a movie in a royalty free medium.
8 posted on 03/02/2008 4:13:18 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

The article fails to mention DRM. For BD to replace DVD, all of the controlling groups need to mitigate the requirements for DRM considerably.

There are still some BluRay players that will not allow play back of BD-R discs, so if you author and burn your own home movie to a BD-R, you won’t be abel to play it back on your player. If the studios had their way, I suspect NO players would allow playback without AACS copy protection (DRM, in this case).

And if you are a small video production company or a corporation with an in-house video department, the cost of the AACS licensing and key in order to have your BluRay title replicated, can be nearly $5,000 just for one title, and is required even if you do not need or want AACS protection on your disc. That’s because a couple of the larger studios demanded that requirement before they would go BluRay exclusively.


9 posted on 03/02/2008 4:16:26 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Pravious
And I want $6.99 for every phonograph album I ever bought, too.

And how about those of us who can no longer get Pioneer's DiscoVision or RCA's 12" non-laser VideoDisc? I can't find ANYTHING in the RCA format anymore!
10 posted on 03/02/2008 4:24:14 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
2. Release Some Movies In Blu-ray Only At some point,

The format will survive or fail on its merits at some point. Many see the long-term competition being downloadables, anyway. PLaying games with BluRay only releases will only make your customers mad.
11 posted on 03/02/2008 4:25:50 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Serious investment on the part of consumers as well. as Blu-Ray HD boxes are about $600 vs $150 to $200 for HD-DVD.

Persobally, I can live without HD. DirecTV, wants to charge some $230 for you to *lease* one of their HD recievers, as well as a monthly fee.

It al,l just comes across as one huge rip-off.


12 posted on 03/02/2008 4:49:32 AM PST by DGHoodini (A man educated without morals, is a menace to society.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

“Likewise, Sony, the company behind Blu-ray, has a responsibility here as well because its participation prolonged the format war, leading to more people buying HD DVD players.”

I have two Toshiba HD-A2’s and the Xbox HD DVD player. It would be nice if Toshiba would at least offer some discount on future players (assuming they ever make a blu-ray player), but I certainly don’t feel they owe it to me. And the quoted statement above is possibly the dumbest thing ever said. A competitor being held to blame for the failure of HD DVD? Spare me!


13 posted on 03/02/2008 4:51:03 AM PST by LanPB01
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Isn’t there a rumor about Blu Ray being replaced with a computer file format?

Why can’t these movies be high quality like my computer plays but on my plasma?


14 posted on 03/02/2008 4:52:42 AM PST by netmilsmom (Giving up "Hairspray" and the cast for Lent. Prayers appreciated!)
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To: DGHoodini

No, not really. I’m finding $400 and $300 blu-ray boxes. Found a $190 blu-ray computer drive.


15 posted on 03/02/2008 4:57:41 AM PST by Crazieman (The Democrat Party: Culture of Treason)
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To: Pravious

Exactly. I want a refund for my old slide rules that are gathering dust. A free new fuel injected motorcycle for each of the ones I have with carburetors would be good too.


16 posted on 03/02/2008 5:08:38 AM PST by Seruzawa (A skeleton walks into a bar and asks for a beer and a mop.)
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To: DGHoodini

“I can live without HD”

Who needs HD or Blu pictures if you don’t have HD eyes anymore?


17 posted on 03/02/2008 5:14:16 AM PST by Glenmore
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To: Mad Dawgg

I totally agree.


18 posted on 03/02/2008 5:15:37 AM PST by Little_shoe ("For Sailor MEN in Battle fair since fighting days of old have earned the right.to the blue and gold)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Yawn. My son bought a big HDTV. It’s pretty nice and all, but not that much nicer that I’m going to throw away my perfectly good TV. Blu-ray is nicer too, but not nice enough to spend hundreds on new equipment and I’m definitely not paying more than $10-12 for a movie. Ferget it.

I’ll bet the attempt to get consumers to change will be about as effective as the attempt to get them to change to HDTV broadcasts. As I recall the Fed said that we were all supposed to be changed over several years ago. LOL!

Bottom line: I don’t need any reason to spend more time sitting in front of a TV set. Weather’s getting better so soon it’ll be gathering dust anyhow.


19 posted on 03/02/2008 5:15:45 AM PST by Seruzawa (A skeleton walks into a bar and asks for a beer and a mop.)
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To: Pravious

“And I want $6.99 for every phonograph album I ever bought, too.”

Yeah, and I want to be paid for all the old 33’s(?) and 45’s I have, as well as the Beta Max, VHS, 8track and cassette players and tapes. That ought to cover the price of the Blu-Ray.


20 posted on 03/02/2008 5:24:36 AM PST by Lynne
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