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McCain: "I am a proud conservative liberal Republican." (VIDEO)
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Posted on 02/29/2008 8:31:26 PM PST by MeanGreen2008

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To: Defiant

“As I said, we don’t have a Republican in the race.”

I’ll bet that will come as quite a surprise to the Republicans who voted him the nominee for the Republican Party. Get a clue, dude.

Kerry courted McCain for VP, and McCain rejected his offer. Get your facts straight and quit making false claims about McCain.


121 posted on 03/02/2008 10:17:54 PM PST by RussP
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To: RussP; Jim Robinson
So, is Jim Robinson going to stand there with his thumb in his rear end and do nothing to stop Osamabama from winning? Is he going to let his emotional hatred for McCain stop him from voting rationally? If so, then I’d say he is really a liberal at heart.

Your profile states you've been here for approximately eight years. Ping a FReeper whenever you're discussing them, rather than taking the coward's approach.

122 posted on 03/02/2008 10:21:27 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Defiant

Oh, and who nominated you the arbiter of who is and is not a Republican?

Look, I agree that McCain leaves a lot to be desired, but I am sober enough to realize that he is far better than bombosama. If you can’t see that, you are simply letting your emotions cloud your thinking.


123 posted on 03/02/2008 10:22:20 PM PST by RussP
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Oh, I’ll bet Jim Robinson is very upset about what I said about him.

What I said about him applies to every Republican and/or conservative. I used his name only because someone quoted his anti-McCain rant. If you aren’t willing to lift a finger to stop Bombosama, then you are as good as a deserter in the war on terrorism. Period.


124 posted on 03/02/2008 10:30:43 PM PST by RussP
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To: RussP
Your profile states you've been here for approximately eight years. Ping a FReeper whenever you're discussing them, rather than taking the coward's approach. Oh, I’ll bet Jim Robinson is very upset about what I said about him.

Find the word "upset" in my previous posting, clown shoes.

Again: you've been here long enough to know the rules, and your being in the midst of a multi-post hissyfit doesn't render you exempt from 'em.

Unhappy with that reality? Take it up with a mod.

125 posted on 03/02/2008 10:35:52 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Defiant

“and some of the affirmative action students were very, very stupid.”

you meant stupid in which way?


126 posted on 03/02/2008 10:56:38 PM PST by steelboy
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To: steelboy
Not very bright. Not belonging at the school. Not able to understand what was being taught. Not able to write very well. It was a school where one set of students had to have a 4.0 from a good school and very high LSATs to get in and another set could get in with a 3.0 from a state college and 40th percentile LSATs. The school had good intentions, hoping that those students could make it through remedial study programs. But most could not.

There were some minorities there that got in on their own, that were bright and talented. It was not minorities that were unable to compete, but only the ones who got in due to relaxed standards. And, it turned out, no one was doing them any favors, because many of them did not pass the bar exam, or dropped out before getting their degree.

127 posted on 03/02/2008 11:08:50 PM PST by Defiant (Para votar Obama, se necessita una cabeza de nada...un cabeza de nada, para mi para ti, ay arriba..)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Get off my back, you useless monkey, and go stalk someone else.


128 posted on 03/02/2008 11:12:57 PM PST by RussP
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To: RussP
Get off my back, you useless monkey, and go stalk someone else.


129 posted on 03/02/2008 11:14:54 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: RussP

You know, you are the only individual on this thread acting like an “emotional” basket case. In fact, you remind me of a child throwing a tantrum because he can’t get attention. Nobody here agrees with you... and all your insults and intimidation will not change that fact. Throw a fit on some other thread, and spare us the white noise... it’s getting old.

RTO out.


130 posted on 03/03/2008 12:30:16 AM PST by RTO (Salve Regina, ora pro nobis!)
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To: RTO

You have quite an imagination. But if you can imagine it, it must be true, eh. Just like McCain is no better than Osamabama.


131 posted on 03/03/2008 8:47:56 AM PST by RussP
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To: RussP
Get off my back, you useless monkey, and go stalk someone else.

Now the McCain guy has turned racist.

132 posted on 03/03/2008 2:26:57 PM PST by Defiant (Para votar Obama, se necessita una cabeza de nada...un cabeza de nada, para mi para ti, ay arriba..)
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To: Defiant

“Now the McCain guy has turned racist.”

Just the sort of charge I would expect from an Obama guy. Keep up the great work for B. Hussein O.! Your country needs you.


133 posted on 03/03/2008 3:39:03 PM PST by RussP
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To: RussP
You have no sense of irony. I don't have a problem with using the term "monkey" as a pejorative. PC people have made it into a racial thing, when really, it's a slam that can be based on looks or perceived lack of intelligence. A McCain supporter would be very upset at being called racist, though, and would want to remain politically correct.

I don't know what I'm going to do in November yet, but the entreaties of the McCain people that I have seen so far are not helping his cause. I am still praying for a miracle that gives us a do-over at the convention. Maybe McCain will have a meltdown and then, when the veins in his head pop, he'll have to leave the race to go to therapy. One can dream.

134 posted on 03/03/2008 3:53:15 PM PST by Defiant (Para votar Obama, se necessita una cabeza de nada...un cabeza de nada, para mi para ti, ay arriba..)
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To: Defiant

Well, for what it’s worth, I wish I hadn’t used the word monkey.

I can tolerate people here on FR blasting McCain. I can even understand that some people want to hold out for more conservative rhetoric from McCain.

What I have a problem with is people claiming to be conservatives and then declaring they will never vote for McCain under any circumstances. That’s just not rational. McCain may be a bum, but he does have a lifetime ACU conservative rating of 82%. Not stellar, but far and away better than Osamabama. There’s really no comparison.

And these people claiming that McCain is “not a Republican” just amaze me. (Can’t remember if that was you.) For crying out loud, he won the Republican nomination! Not a Republican, my rear end!

The irony is that all those FReepers who once called McCain a “RINO” are now the real “RINOs” if they refuse to vote for him.

And, no, I am not claiming that anyone should vote for him simply because he “has an R next to his name.” That’s a red herring. I’m saying they should vote for him because he is *far* more conservative than Osamabama.


135 posted on 03/03/2008 5:03:18 PM PST by RussP
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To: RussP
I don't know about all the conservatives, but I can state categorically that I am no RINO. Why? Because I no longer consider myself a Republican. I am a conservative, who was a Republican and who has always voted Republican but only because it was the party of conservative thought.

I will analyze the election this November from the perspective of someone who has no ties or attachment to the Republican party. I am truly independent of them at this time. McCain courts independents to the left of the party, but no one has contemplated the possibility of a new bloc of voters who are independent and to the right of the party. It is a new thing and something he better think about if he wants even a tiny chance this November.

Maybe I will vote for McCain; maybe not. But my decision will be based on a determination of what is best for conservatism, not out of party loyalty. McCain better convince me and other conservatives that our beliefs will be better served by electing and supporting him, in the long run and in the short run. I am not convinced yet, in spite of the horrors of either Dem winning.

Consider this: McCain is looking like a big loser in October. He is down 12 points in the polls, and everyone has written him off. We know he's going to lose. Would it not be better for him to lose so badly, so historically, that it forces the Republican Party to redefine itself and once again become the party of conservatism? I think if such is the case, I will definitely find a third party to vote for, or write someone in. You are not throwing away your vote if your candidate is going down in flames.

If it looks like it is going to be close, then I will analyze how a McCain RINO administration will be better or worse for the eventual destruction of socialism than the alternative.

One thing everyone has to, regardless, is vote in November for the conservatives who are running for other offices, from dog catcher to State Legislature to Congress. We will have to have a strong enough delegation in Congress to defeat liberalism, whether it is led by McCain or by Obama.

136 posted on 03/03/2008 7:40:37 PM PST by Defiant (Para votar Obama, se necessita una cabeza de nada...un cabeza de nada, para mi para ti, ay arriba..)
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To: Defiant

“Maybe I will vote for McCain; maybe not. But my decision will be based on a determination of what is best for conservatism, not out of party loyalty.”

I suggest you consider what is best for the nation rather than just what is best for “conservatism.”

As you know, there is a school of thought that says we will be better off in the long run to just let the worst of two bad candidates get elected and let the country learn a hard lesson. There’s something to be said for that, but it’s darn risky, considering Supreme Court appointments and the like.

Sometimes I think the only way a true conservative will ever get elected is to have the country truly go down the tubes. When Reagan got elected, after all, the economy was in the toilet. We bitch and moan about the economy, but we have no idea these days of what real stagflation is like.

The reason conservatives are not doing well now, I believe, is that (a) the economy is fundamentally sound (thanks to the Bush tax cuts), and (b), we have not had a major terrorist attack since 9/11, again thanks to the Bush administration. So we are in a dilemma in which the Bush administration has performed so well (on those matters anyway) that the public is in a complacent mood and thinks we can afford a shot of liberalism.


137 posted on 03/03/2008 9:54:10 PM PST by RussP
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To: RussP
"I suggest you consider what is best for the nation rather than just what is best for “conservatism.”

Conservatism is what is best for the nation. Without it, we will descend into the rule of men, instead of laws. For the nation to be given a choice of socialism or socialism lite, together with an all but assured amnesty, we are all but guaranteed a socialist state that will be impossible to reverse. Socialized medicine will the the nail in the coffin of free market capitalism. Cultural marxism will be the rule. Constitutional law will be a joke to those whose will is what matters.

What good is McCain's supposed advantage if he gives the country away to the socialists? Look what happened to Churchill's Britain. It is almost gone, a remnant of a proud and mighty people. We are heading in that direction.

My loyalty is first to my nation, the nation of my ancestors, many of whom fought and died to protect it and preserve it. You are ridiculous to question my priorities as though to fail to support a lunatic who styles himself a Republican but who nearly switched parties in a fit of pique over being denied the nomination, who then did everything in his power to destroy conservatives and spit in the eye of the President in the middle of a war, and whose war-fighting judgment is questionable given his judgment on Guantanamo and on his PC view of the world, is the definition of doing what is best for the nation. Thanks for the laugh.

138 posted on 03/04/2008 12:59:59 AM PST by Defiant (Para votar Obama, se necessita una cabeza de nada...un cabeza de nada, para mi para ti, ay arriba..)
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To: Defiant

“You are ridiculous to question my priorities as though to fail to support a lunatic who styles himself a Republican but who nearly switched parties in a fit of pique over being denied the nomination, ...”

I’d really like to know what your evidence is that McCain “nearly switched parties.” That’s not my understanding. And if you are willing to believe lies about McCain, what does that say about you?


139 posted on 03/04/2008 9:22:37 PM PST by RussP
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To: Picklezz
Personally, I believe that McCain got his tongue caught in front of his eye teeth and he momentarily couldn't see what he was saying.

More like between his frontal lobes. Seemed to me to be a classic Freudian Slip.

140 posted on 03/13/2008 11:06:09 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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