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Maybe McCain should debate Symington[UFO's]
Herald Tribune ^ | 27 Feb 2008 | Billy Cox

Posted on 02/28/2008 10:24:05 AM PST by BGHater

A 10/9/97 letter from Sen. John McCain to a constituent about the so-called Phoenix Lights is making the Internet rounds (at http://frankwarren.blogspot.com/2008/02/senator-john-mccain-tasked-air-force-to.html) just in time for next month’s anniversary commemoration in Scottsdale. But to the amazement of Dr. Lynn Kitei, no one has bothered to press the de facto Republican presidential nominee for an updated response.

Kitei is a Phoenix physician whose world view went sideways when an apparent V-shaped UFO surprised untold numbers of Arizonans on the evening of March 13, 1997. Kitei had seen and even photographed strange lights in the night sky two months earlier, but the mass sightings on that date ultimately drew her into the limelight as a lead investigator.

Kitei’s work wound up in a documentary and a book by the same name, “The Phoenix Lights.” On the 11th anniversary of that event, she’ll be unveiling an expanded version of the doc that features, among other things, a commercial airline pilot eyewitness and a 911 dispatcher who’ll reportedly reveal how police helicopters were involved in the drama.

Not unlike the Stephenville, Tex., UFO incident on Jan. 8 this year, the military initially denied it had planes in the air that night. But McCain reported to a letter writer that an official at Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson assured him the lights were flares dropped by A-10s from a visiting Maryland National Guard unit, from an altitude of 15,000 feet, from roughly 9:30 to 10 p.m.

But according to Kitei’s timeline, people reported seeing the UFO from as early as 5 p.m. to as late as 2 a.m., with the bulk of the sightings rolling in from 8:30 p.m. to 9:40 p.m.

The story has morphed since then, most notably with the testimony of former Arizona guv Fife Symington. In 1997, when he was still in office, Symington ridiculed the reports. Last year, he reversed himself, claimed he was an eyewitness to something “enormous and inexplicable” (see http://www.freedomofinfo.org/news/symington-story.pdf), and flatly discounted the military flares explanation.

Symington has since become a public advocate for government disclosure; in November, he introduced an international cast of likeminded pilots and aviation authorities to the National Press Club in Washington.

The media has given McCain a pass on this whopper of a national security issue that asserted itself in his own back yard. Fox News’ Chris Wallace playfully asked McCain in November if he’d ever seen a UFO during his Navy pilot career (“I can't say that I did, but I kept looking all the time”), but clearly the MSM doesn’t have the chops for an extended conversation.

“I’m really surprised that nobody has pinned him down, or even tried to,” says Kitei. “If anything, interest in what happened has just been growing and growing. Too many people have seen and are seeing things.”

Maybe, like Symington, McCain will come out of the closet once his political career is over. In the meantime, just for the hell of it, you can reach the Senator at: John McCain 2008, P.O. Box 16118, Arlington, VA 22215, 703-418-2008.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debate; mccain; symington; ufo
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1 posted on 02/28/2008 10:24:09 AM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

McCain swamp gas.


2 posted on 02/28/2008 10:27:40 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am the watchman on the tower sounding the alarm.)
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To: BGHater

I saw one video of the “Phoenix lights” on the History Channel. The lights were easily identifiable as illumination flares dropped from an aircraft.


4 posted on 02/28/2008 10:40:19 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: BGHater
Aliens endorse Bush......................................... McCain endorses aliens.

5 posted on 02/28/2008 10:40:39 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: BGHater
"... a Phoenix physician whose world view went sideways..."

His "worldview went sideways?"

WTF does that mean?

6 posted on 02/28/2008 10:41:21 AM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: F15Eagle

There were two formations seen at different times.

One was definitely proved to be flares dropped behind the distant mountains by overlaying the video on daylight video of the area and showing that each light disappeared when it went behind a mountain peak.

The other “V shaped” formation was seen by a teenager with a telescope. He said it was a formation of small aircraft, but few people print his story and you almost never hear his name mentioned.


7 posted on 02/28/2008 10:42:37 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Brad from Tennessee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0LrnsKWcjk


8 posted on 02/28/2008 10:42:45 AM PST by BGHater ($2300 is the limit of your Free Speech.)
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To: F15Eagle
Flares don’t stay in perfect formation at 15,000 feet for very long.

And you don't drop them over a CITY!

9 posted on 02/28/2008 10:45:59 AM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H

They weren’t anywhere near the city. There is really no doubt about that.

http://members.aol.com/TPrinty/AZUFO.html


10 posted on 02/28/2008 10:46:56 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: BGHater

The fruits of Art Bell.


11 posted on 02/28/2008 10:57:48 AM PST by donna (Hope has no power. It is just postponed disappointment.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If we aren’t being visited by UFOs, how do you explain the technology used to build Karl Rove’s weather machine?


12 posted on 02/28/2008 11:11:10 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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Thanks for the link. The video I saw on TV was of longer duration than anything on the YOUTUBE video. It shows lights appearing in a sequence from right to left across the screen. Multiple flares dropped from an aircraft deploy their parachute and ignite at spaced intervals. If the flares are 10 or more miles away they will appear, for a short time, to hover even though they are descending. The YOUTUBE video only shows brief snips of the footage shown on History Channel which I have no doubt were air-dropped illumination flares.

It may be that there was a different triangle-shapped phenomenon people in Phoenix have reported aside from these flares.

13 posted on 02/28/2008 11:16:38 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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[. . .how do you explain the technology used to build Karl Rove’s weather machine?]

Rove discovered blueprints for the weather machine in a Nazi archive where he was researching sword canes and poison umbrellas.


14 posted on 02/28/2008 11:24:24 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

There were supposedly two separate sightings in Phoenix that night. The first is the one you describe, of illumination flares in the distance falling behind a local mountain range.

The second happened some time later (an hour or two, I believe). This is the one where people say they saw a triangular object flying at very low altitude over their houses in the city.


15 posted on 02/28/2008 11:24:31 AM PST by VOR78
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To: BGHater

It seems like a respectful letter. Now the NY Times (in the person, so to speak, of the Herald Tribune is attacking John McCain for NOT investigating UFOs thoroughly enough? Gee, I’m sure the Democratic (recent) frontrunner would have done all she could have, if only she had ever had access to the White House information on UFOs...


16 posted on 02/28/2008 11:32:10 AM PST by dangus
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To: Brad from Tennessee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BVJl-eh9p8

I sure as hell don’t see anything particularly otherworldly.


17 posted on 02/28/2008 11:35:20 AM PST by dangus
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To: VOR78

So the aliens were late for the USAF show? I found on You Tube other videos ... not neccesarily that day... which looks like aircraft flying in triangular formation. No reason to believe they were alien aircraft.


19 posted on 02/28/2008 11:45:02 AM PST by dangus
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I never said that there was. I was simply replying to an earlier poster who thought there may have been another sighting that night besides these flares and that indeed seems to be the case.

I have no idea what the 2nd group of people saw, but the first were almost certainly flares. Many reported that the 2nd sighting was of something low enough to see solid structure between the lights and if that’s true, that rules out aircraft flying in formation.

Given the total lack of physical evidence, the only reasonable conclusion is that these people obviously saw something they could not explain. It could’ve been aliens, it could’ve been an airplane, it could’ve been Santa Claus, or it could’ve been nothing at all. With no evidence, we can only speculate.


20 posted on 02/28/2008 12:08:27 PM PST by VOR78
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