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Record-high ratio of Americans in prison
AP via Yahoo ^

Posted on 02/28/2008 9:14:44 AM PST by Slapshot68

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To: Slapshot68; newgeezer

This record is broken everyday. Having the most powerful government in the world certainly has it’s drawbacks. There’s also a bit of a problem with the whole melting pot thing.


21 posted on 02/28/2008 9:34:30 AM PST by DungeonMaster (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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To: Vigilanteman
Your committee better take up a collection and buy some bigger rope. The one you show will strangle the perpetrator not break his neck.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

22 posted on 02/28/2008 9:38:04 AM PST by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: Slapshot68

I think we should make all the prisoners spend 8 hours a day pedaling exercise bikes plugged into energy storage devices. They could at least power their own prisons.


23 posted on 02/28/2008 9:38:22 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: WOBBLY BOB
"...One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. ......just pass the the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted — and you create a nation of law-breakers — and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

DING! DING! DING! - we have a winner!

24 posted on 02/28/2008 9:41:31 AM PST by martin gibson ("I care not what course others may take, but as for myself, give me Ralph Stanley or give me death")
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To: killermedic
or maybe we should stop putting anyone in jail for public drunkeness or moonshining or any drug-related LAW that we have.

We have a winner.
25 posted on 02/28/2008 9:41:39 AM PST by mysterio
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To: AmericaUnited

A large number of these people are products of the Drug War itself, be it weed, coke, heroin, whatever.

By giving poor young men and women an easy and attractive alternative to actually trying hard to complete school and find decent and honorable work, the New Prohibition just encourages people to take a different path.

Alter that dynamic and you can defang the criminal street gangs and take away a great deal of their resources and attraction to young people in vulnerable areas.

Then end or at least strongly modify the welfare state so that people are naturally incented towards positive ends.

If we could reduce our illegal population of Central Americans, reduce the Welfare State’s hold and impact on society and end the destructive (to liberty and human dignity) Drug War, you’d see a LOT of this country’s problems become more manageable.


26 posted on 02/28/2008 9:43:28 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Slapshot68

Sometime in the future, state budgets will overwhelmingly consist of two things: Prisons & Medicaid.


27 posted on 02/28/2008 9:43:32 AM PST by gdani (I'm freakin pumped! I've been drinking green tea all goddamn day!)
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To: SubGeniusX
The report said the United States is the world's incarceration leader, far ahead of more populous China with 1.5 million people behind bars.

That's because they summarily execute the ones with tissue types that match people willing to pay big bucks for replacement organs.

China's Mobile Death Fleet

We could clear ours out pretty quick, too, if all the people who deserved the death penalty got it and the courts didn't stand in the way.

28 posted on 02/28/2008 9:48:30 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: mysterio

Don’t forget that now many government regulations are no longer civil infractions or administrative rules but if you are in violation, you’re charged with a felony.

No laws against prostitution, gambling, substance abuse or other consensual activities with no direct victim.

RIGIDLY enforce laws against violent criminals FIRST. Then move onto serious white collar criminals and thieves.

There’s NO WAY in the world a man who kills another and gets charged with 2nd degree murder should be out in the same time or before someone who had a substance (in whatever quantity) in their trunk.


29 posted on 02/28/2008 9:48:44 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Slapshot68
For the first time in history, more than one in every 100 American adults is in jail or prison...

Using updated state-by-state data, the report said 2,319,258 adults were held in U.S. prisons or jails at the start of 2008 — one out of every 99.1 adults, and more than any other country in the world....

It said the U.S. also is the leader in inmates per capita (750 per 100,000 people), ...


new math..pick a figure...any figure...

I'm wonderin if some of these other countries kill people when we put 'em in prison for the same crime.
30 posted on 02/28/2008 9:52:04 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: gdani; JoSixChip; Slapshot68; Eric in the Ozarks; dfwgator; wideawake; Always Right; ...

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here


31 posted on 02/28/2008 9:55:50 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Slapshot68

When one percent of the adult population is in prison, we have to many laws.


32 posted on 02/28/2008 10:00:39 AM PST by deuteronlmy232
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To: WOBBLY BOB

WOBBLY BOB—Man you got it RIGHT!!!!! At 68 I have seen a heck of a lot of FORCE AT THE POINT OF A LAW being put upon the American people.

Soon, If we don’t take our country back via election of people h=who hold the same values we hold, folks won’t be able to do anything except go to work to earn money to be confiscated by the government to keep it in power therefore enabling it to take all our freedom!!!!!


33 posted on 02/28/2008 10:04:42 AM PST by ScareyFast63
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To: Slapshot68

The practice in other countries, even Islamic ones, of whipping smalltime criminals and then sending them home that afternoon has a lot to recommend it.

Putting borderline mentally ill people in cages with other sociopaths (including most of the guards) for months or years at a time, and then sending them back out one day with a ‘do not hire’ note in their file works about as well as you’d expect it to.


34 posted on 02/28/2008 10:25:24 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: Slapshot68

End the stupid WOD


35 posted on 02/28/2008 10:27:21 AM PST by uncbob
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To: ckilmer
From your New York link:

"Wanted for Murder in New York City"


Rebecah Johnson

Subject did shoot known victim numerous times. Subject has a propensity for violence and should be considered armed and dangerous. She is known to have dyed her hair and frequents the lower east side of Manhattan.

This one probably belongs behind bars. Around here, she would get 20 yrs just for that wildeyed look on her face.

So may nuts, so little time.

36 posted on 02/28/2008 10:27:57 AM PST by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It could be saying....

The people are sick of crime, and placing these criminals in jail. Where they belong.

It could be saying...we are sending some wrong folks to jail. ( i.e. Some relatively minor drug offenses..in some states...get out of proportion jail sentences..)

It could be saying.....liberal policies are failing.

I have a small solution. Hang, shoot, electrocute, the one's that we know, that we know, that we know...did the murder, rape, torture. That right there would clear out some room...in the prisons.

Molon Labe

37 posted on 02/28/2008 10:33:02 AM PST by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: An Old Man

She’ll probably get a Homeland Security position in the McLame administration.


38 posted on 02/28/2008 10:36:20 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: Osage Orange
"I have a small solution. Hang, shoot, electrocute, the one's that we know, that we know, that we know...did the murder, rape, torture. That right there would clear out some room...in the prisons."

That's a thought!

39 posted on 02/28/2008 10:37:43 AM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: Slapshot68

That should surprise no one. One would expect more crime equates to more prisoners. What might be more surprising would be the number of criminals that have not been caught or convicted and are still at large. Big murder cities often only resolve half of murder cases. These imprisonment numbers well understate America’s crime problem.


40 posted on 02/28/2008 10:41:04 AM PST by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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