[astounded]

I married at age 25 in 1980 (still married to the same woman, by the way), and that was considered “old” for the time. Now, I look around at the 25 years old “men” around the city (Chicago) and I wonder at the immaturity on display. I refer to the ubiquitous baseball cap, often turned backward; the entitlement attitude; the misogynistic and often outright crude behavior toward women (thanks to Bill Clinton for that); the endless partying; the endless games and sports; and so on. I don’t know how this has come to pass, but it sure is demoralizing to me in that I fear for our future.

[misterrob]

Actually you can blame the Boomer generation for how they raised their kids. (If you raised your kid to be responsible, respectful and motivated this doesn’t apply to you)

[angcat]

You should see my almost 40 year old boss. He is married with child and is ready for his next frat party. He spends weekends at bars and strip clubs and lusts for this child’s “nanny”.

[Scotswife]

” the misogynistic and often outright crude behavior toward women (thanks to Bill Clinton for that); the endless partying; the endless games and sports; and so on. I don’t know how this has come to pass, but it sure is demoralizing to me in that I fear for our future.”

Oh Clinton cannot take all the blame.
You would be amazed at how much the young teenage boys are into internet porn these days.
Teenage boys are also heavy into “gaming” - they will ignore their school books and play video games for hours.
They have sleepovers where they all bring their gaming systems - form a connection, and have gaming tournaments.
They are on the internet playing violent fantasy games.

Some girls do it too - but it seems the young boys are more easily addicted to the gadgets.

The problem I’ve seen, is they don’t seem to outgrow this phase when they graduate high school.

I’ll run into a boy who graduated high school 5 yrs. ago and I’ll ask my daughter...”is he still a gamer? is he still addicted to internet porn”...the only ones who seem to snap out of it are the ones who go into the military.

They are in a perpetual state of childhood coupled with pornographic fantasies.
Is it any wonder they have a difficult time moving onto manhood?

[Glenmerle]

Now, I look around at the 25 years old “men” around the city (Chicago) and I wonder at the immaturity on display. I refer to the ubiquitous baseball cap, often turned backward

THANK YOU for recognizing that immaturity on both sides has caused this dilemma.

And yeah, the backwards baseball cap is a real danger sign. :-)