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Senate advances anti-war bill (allows it to begin earnest debate on Iraq war funds cut-off)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 2/26/08 | Anne Flaherty - ap

Posted on 02/26/2008 1:01:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Senate Republicans on Tuesday helped advance a Democratic-pushed bill to cut off money for the war in Iraq, saying the additional debating time would allow them to hail progress there.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said the discussion will allow the GOP to cite the "extraordinary progress that's been made in Iraq over the last six months, not only on the military side, but also with civilian reconciliation beginning to finally take hold in the country."

The Senate voted 70-24 to advance the bill past a procedural hurdle and begin debating it in earnest. A final vote was expected later this week or next week.

The White House said the president would veto such a measure.

"This legislation would substitute the political judgment of legislators for the considered professional military judgment of our military commanders," according to an administration statement.

Democrats said they welcomed the debate, although they accused Republicans of stalling on plans to debate other issues, namely the housing crisis.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said that "a civil war rages" in Iraq and shouldn't be the responsibility of U.S. taxpayers.

"Americans need to start taking care of Americans," he said. "We cannot spend a half billion dollars every day in Iraq."

Senate Republicans had been widely expected to block the measure, as they had done repeatedly in the past. But after emerging from a closed-door meeting earlier Tuesday, McConnell said the GOP members were now eager to discuss the war.

In recent months, violence in Iraq has subsided significantly and the Baghdad government has made small steps toward political reconciliation, including plans to hold provincial elections on Oct. 1.

While Democratic voters remain largely against the war, polls have shown, the security improvement has helped to cool anxiety among Republicans and has turned voters' focus to economic problems at home.

The vote came as the Army's top general said he wants to reduce combat tours for soldiers in Iraq from 15 months to 12 months this summer.

Gen. George Casey, the Army chief of staff, told a Senate panel he would not embrace going back to the longer tours even if President Bush decided to suspend troop reductions for the second half of the year. The Army is under serious strain from years of war-fighting, he testified, and must reduce the length of combat tours as soon as possible.

"The cumulative effects of the last six-plus years at war have left our Army out of balance, consumed by the current fight and unable to do the things we know we need to do to properly sustain our all-volunteer force and restore our flexibility for an uncertain future," Casey said.

Casey, who was the top U.S. commander in Iraq before taking the chief of staff job last spring, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that cutting the time soldiers spend in combat is an integral part of reducing the stress on the force.

He said he anticipates the service can cut combat tours from 15 months to 12 months this summer, as long as the president reduces the number of active-duty Army brigades in Iraq and Afghanistan to 15 units by July, as planned.

The committee chairman, Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., pressed Casey on whether he could keep tour lengths at 12 months if Bush decides to suspend the troop reductions after reaching 15 brigades in July.

"We believe it will still be possible, even with the pause," Casey replied. When asked by Levin if that would hold true "regardless of the length of the pause," Casey, replied, "Yes."

However, the number of soldiers retained under the service's "stop loss" policy — which forces some soldiers to stay on beyond their retirement or re-enlistment dates — is unlikely to be reduced substantially.

"We are consuming readiness now, as quickly as we're building it," said Army Secretary Pete Geren, who also testified.

Geren urged Congress to pass a $100 billion war spending bill this spring, contending that the Army will run out of money by July.

According to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the Army could probably last until August or September by transferring money from less urgent accounts. Army officials counter that this approach is inefficient and can cause major program disruptions.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: advances; antiwar; iraq; senate

1 posted on 02/26/2008 1:01:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

McCain’s butt buddy Feingold is leading the charge on this one.


2 posted on 02/26/2008 1:04:24 PM PST by TADSLOS ( McCain-Feingold: "Good for thee but not for me"- John McCain)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Thinking of withdrawal is thinking of defeat. It should be done step by step." --Tahir al-Bakaa, former Iraqi Minister of Higher Education and Scientific Research
3 posted on 02/26/2008 1:06:02 PM PST by G8 Diplomat
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To: NormsRevenge

This was the idea of the NRCC right? I can’t believe the rats would be that dumb in an election year.


4 posted on 02/26/2008 1:09:44 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When you choose the lesser of two evils, you still have evil.)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is a good strategic move by McConnell and the R's, IMO.

Joe Lieberman gave a strong speech before the vote was taken, one that had to really irritate the D's.

5 posted on 02/26/2008 1:14:20 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: ElkGroveDan

“I can’t believe the rats would be that dumb in an election year.”

They are that dumb. They think this will curry favor with the anti-war loons who have been alienated in recent months.

Once again, however, it will blow up in their faces.

Worst Congress in decades.


6 posted on 02/26/2008 1:15:18 PM PST by Slapshot68
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To: NormsRevenge
Reid has got to be the dumbest Rat leader ever. The Republicans will allow the vote to go through putting the Rats on record and knowing if it makes it way to the President it will be vetoed. This is really going to put Obama and Clinton on the spot.
7 posted on 02/26/2008 1:18:01 PM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: NormsRevenge
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said that "a civil war rages"

Whoa!

By Harry Reid's standard, then we still have a civil war raging in the U.S. since the liberals and conservatives are constantly at each others' throats.
8 posted on 02/26/2008 1:20:48 PM PST by adorno
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To: NormsRevenge
The al-Qaeda members of the US Senate are at it again trying to surrender and kill as many Americans as they can.

Is it not a shame that these scum call themselves Americans and they have taken an oath to defend the Constitution but they want to surrender our country to the Islamic terrorist?

Repeal the 17th Amendment so we can get some real Americans back in the US Senate.

9 posted on 02/26/2008 1:35:11 PM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: tobyhill

maybe Obama will vote Present... ;-)


10 posted on 02/26/2008 1:39:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge
>A final vote was expected later this week or next week.

Well, that is just plain wrong.

The Senate pubs need to drag out debate on this until September, at the least, and I want to see both Clinton and Obama on the Senate floor debating the Hell out of this issue.

11 posted on 02/26/2008 2:12:35 PM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: smoothsailing
There's a video clip of Lieberman's speech on Hot Air.

Lieberman

12 posted on 02/26/2008 2:25:25 PM PST by guinnessman
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To: guinnessman
Thanks.

If you click on the link I posted you will find a link to a video of the entire speech.

13 posted on 02/26/2008 2:52:58 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: NormsRevenge

I think the GOP wants votes from Clinton and Obama on this one. :)


14 posted on 02/26/2008 2:53:03 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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bookmark


15 posted on 02/26/2008 4:01:19 PM PST by pdunkin (I feel more like I do now than I did this morning.)
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks, I didn’t notice that before.


16 posted on 02/27/2008 2:32:08 AM PST by guinnessman
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To: tobyhill
Democrats said they welcomed the debate, although they accused Republicans of stalling on plans to debate other issues, namely the housing crisis.

Can anyone make any sense of this statement for me?

They want to debate the Republicans on Iraq, but they accuse Republicans of not debating them on other issues because they are debating them on Iraq.

17 posted on 02/27/2008 2:43:46 AM PST by guinnessman
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