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Helen Thomas: "Bush Legacy Already Established--President Seems To Have Hard Time Abiding By Law"
TheBostonChannel.com ^ | 20 Feb 08 | Journalistic legend HELEN THOMAS!!!

Posted on 02/26/2008 8:35:25 AM PST by seanmerc

President George W. Bush should stop worrying about his legacy. It’s already established.

By his deeds you shall know him; preemptive war, torture and wiretapping, for starters.

Nothing said in history can wipe out those flaws in his administration. And no revisionist historian down the road can diminish the importance of those acts. He has governed with threats -- and by nourishing fear in the American people.

The president seems to have a hard time abiding by the law. Referring to his struggles with Congress during his first year in office, Bush joked that ``a dictatorship would be heck of a lot easier.”

But it is no joke that he has found ways to circumvent the constitutional restraints of his office with signing statements and secret directives.

Bush also has been able to execute his power grab by playing the fear card -- and with hardly a peep from a cowed Congress. This tactic has worked most of the time.

Now, fortunately, the administration is encountering some pushback from Capitol Hill, from those who reject the chipping away of our civil liberties and the tarnishing of our reputation in the world among those who once respected our leadership.

It was Benjamin Franklin who said, “If we are willing to give up our liberty for security, we are in danger of losing both.” Hopefully, more lawmakers will realize the wisdom of those words.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) gives the president a wide berth to invade the privacy of Americans. True, a warrant is needed for eavesdropping but in a dire emergency, wiretapping can begin and the warrant obtained later, after the eavesdropping.

What’s the problem with persuading a judge before starting the wiretap? “It’s cumbersome,” says the administration.

Warrants for eavesdropping have rarely been denied by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court created under the FISA law that was enacted in 1978.

Meantime, the president has threatened to veto a legislative ban on waterboarding and other coercive interrogation techniques that are tantamount to torture.

In waterboarding, a prisoner is strapped to a board with his face covered with a cloth and water poured over his face and nostrils. The goal is to induce a sense of drowning.

At two consecutive news conferences late last year, the president said flatly: “We do not torture.”

So why does he want to veto legislation to ban it?

U.S. legal commitments and international law bar torture of prisoners as “cruel, inhumane and degrading.”

Bush has rejected a congressional demand that the rules in the Army Field Manual about the treatment of prisoners should apply to the CIA and to government security contractors. The manual does not allow waterboarding.

In a strange defense of Bush’s viewpoint, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said the Army Field Manual is “public for all to see, and we know that al-Qaeda trains to resist interrogation techniques such as those. So the president will veto the bill.”

Thirty retired admirals and generals have sent a letter to key Democrats stating their view that intelligence agents must adhere to the Army manual on treatment of prisoners. They said it was vital for the protection of U.S. troops if captured by an enemy.

Last Friday, Steven Bradbury, acting head of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, told Congress that the department has not decided whether waterboarding is unlawful.

But he said changes in the law since three terrorism suspects were waterboarded have eliminated the technique from the list of allowable practices.

Bradbury is notorious for signing two legal memos in 2005 authorizing the CIA to use head slapping, freezing temperatures and waterboarding when questioning terrorism suspects.

Because of those memos Senate Democrats have blocked his nomination by Bush to formally head the legal counsel’s office. As his months in office dwindle down, Bush has often said his low standing in public opinion polls do not worry him because he is certain he will be vindicated in the future.

He should stop worrying about his legacy. Instead, the president should use his fading time in office to do some soul searching on whether he could have done better in the most powerful job in the world.

(Helen Thomas can be reached at hthomas@hearstdc.com).


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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I think Helen was there when Benjamin Franklin uttered those words. OBTW, INCOMING!!!


1 posted on 02/26/2008 8:35:28 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
He should stop worrying about his legacy.

Bush doesn't care about legacy like your boy BJ...projection? maybe?

2 posted on 02/26/2008 8:37:23 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: seanmerc

As SNL used to say about Leon Spinks:

“At least I still have my good looks”


3 posted on 02/26/2008 8:38:07 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: A_Former_Democrat

4 posted on 02/26/2008 8:39:22 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
Bradbury is notorious for signing two legal memos in 2005 authorizing the CIA to use head slapping, freezing temperatures and waterboarding when questioning terrorism suspects.

Head slapping terrorists, when will the horrors of this administration end!!!! -sarc

5 posted on 02/26/2008 8:39:48 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk

Gads!! I’m out of here. My kids started screaming after seeing these pictures. Gotta go get them out from under the bed!LOL!


6 posted on 02/26/2008 8:40:08 AM PST by shiva
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To: seanmerc

Oh, come on. I am eating breakfast...thats just not funny.


7 posted on 02/26/2008 8:40:09 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: seanmerc

Who has the Sea Hag leaned towards re Hillary v Obama?


8 posted on 02/26/2008 8:40:25 AM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: seanmerc

She is just a vile human being.


9 posted on 02/26/2008 8:40:38 AM PST by Bruinator (It's the Media.............Stupid)
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To: seanmerc

I see Helen has become full senile. Nothing, not one thing, in this column could be considered even remotely rational. It as if she lives in some completely different world where all laws are totally different the the ones actually on the books here in the good old USA


10 posted on 02/26/2008 8:40:42 AM PST by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: drzz
So FR will allow this headline, calling the President a criminal, but would not allow your headline calling Obama a Muslim?????????????????????????????????
11 posted on 02/26/2008 8:40:45 AM PST by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
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To: seanmerc

Oh I think you should be cut deep and long for that massive attack on my senses. I think I’ll have to go stare at the throne to gather meself.

Trying to LOL


12 posted on 02/26/2008 8:40:49 AM PST by mcshot (Missing my grade school desk which protected from nuclear blasts.)
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Can I now be waterboarded to get those images out of my head!!!???
13 posted on 02/26/2008 8:41:08 AM PST by frogjerk
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It was Benjamin Franklin who said, “If we are willing to give up our liberty for security, we are in danger of losing both.” Hopefully, more lawmakers will realize the wisdom of those words.

In fact, Ben told her personally.

14 posted on 02/26/2008 8:41:18 AM PST by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: seanmerc

You don’t have to see her face to know she’s ugly. Just read her words.


15 posted on 02/26/2008 8:42:15 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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To: seanmerc

“By his deeds you shall know him; preemptive war, torture and wiretapping, for starters.”

Oh give me a !#@$#!$#@$!@# huge break.

“Torture”, my !$!@#@$.

What hyperbole and absurdity.

You’d think Bush was Idi Amin. Whom I’m sure Helen admires.


16 posted on 02/26/2008 8:42:25 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: seanmerc

Helen Thomas is nothing but lies, lies, and more lies.


17 posted on 02/26/2008 8:42:25 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: frogjerk

I really do think that on January 20, 2008, President Bush will get on an airplane, fly to Texas, and not give any of this business another thought. While he is in office, he will do his duty as he sees fit. When he is out of office, he will clear brush.


18 posted on 02/26/2008 8:42:27 AM PST by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 7, 2008.)
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To: roses of sharon

Good point.


19 posted on 02/26/2008 8:42:33 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: seanmerc

Waterboarding? Head slapping? Freezing temperatures?

If you want to really torture the terrorists, lock them in a room wallpapered with pictures of Helen Thomas!!!!

They’d spill their guts in less than 24 hours.


20 posted on 02/26/2008 8:43:25 AM PST by fredhead (4-cylinder, air cooled, horizontally opposed......THE REAL VW!!!)
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