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UN climate head: US stand a `nonstarter'
AP on Yahoo ^ | 2/25/08 | Charles J. Hanley - ap

Posted on 02/25/2008 4:33:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK - The U.N. climate chief on Monday welcomed statements by Bush administration officials that the United States would accept a binding international commitment to reduce global-warming gases. But he said their insistence that China and other developing nations do the same "is not realistic."

"If it's a quid pro quo, then it's a nonstarter," said Yvo de Boer, executive secretary of the Bonn-based U.N. climate secretariat.

The United States is the only major industrial nation to reject the U.N. climate treaty's Kyoto Protocol, which requires 37 nations to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions by an average 5 percent by 2012.

Instead, the Bush administration has called for voluntary reductions by U.S. industry and generally has discussed only national-level commitments, via legislation on vehicle fuel efficiency, for example, rather than accept the idea of international treaty obligations.

On Monday, the White House's deputy national security adviser for international economic affairs, meeting with reporters in Paris, indicated Washington would take on such a treaty obligation — but with a major condition.

"The U.S. is prepared to enter into binding international obligations to reduce greenhouse gases as part of a global agreement in which all major economies similarly undertake binding international obligations," said Daniel Price, according to a BBC report.

"Major economies" refers to the 17 largest emitters of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, led by the United States and China.

China, India, Brazil and other poorer nations, some with fast-growing economies, were exempted from Kyoto's obligations in order to allow them to develop and lift more of their people out of poverty. They resist taking on such commitments after 2012, pointing to richer nations' historical responsibility for the atmosphere's carbon dioxide overload, and the fact that their per-capita emissions are mere fractions of U.S. per-capita figures.

But China is now surpassing the U.S. in total carbon dioxide output, and Price, accompanied by James Connaugton, the chief White House environmental adviser, said such big emitters must commit to cutbacks with the U.S.

"An effective framework requires the participation of all major economies, developed and developing alike," he was quoted as saying.

De Boer told The Associated Press that U.S. talk of internationally binding targets for emissions reductions was "great." But he saw problems in what Price said otherwise.

"If the intent is to achieve a comparable effort on the part of developing countries, then that is not realistic and not in line with what was agreed in Bali," de Boer said.

At December's annual U.N. climate conference in Bali, Indonesia, the world's nations agreed on a two-year negotiating timetable for reaching an agreement to succeed Kyoto after 2012, and the big developing nations did not say they would accept international obligations to cut emissions.

Other nations expect the new U.S. administration taking office next January — whether Democratic or Republican — to be more accepting of a Kyoto-like agreement.

The Bush administration, meanwhile, has been conducting a series of meetings with the 16 other "major economies" to discuss possible national plans for reducing emissions. It hopes those discussions will produce a "leaders' declaration" — not an internationally binding agreement — before this July's annual G-8 summit in Japan.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climate; globalwarming; kyoto; nonstarter; unitednations
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1 posted on 02/25/2008 4:33:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Question for the UN: You and whose army?


2 posted on 02/25/2008 4:34:09 PM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: NormsRevenge
The United States is the only major industrial nation

Since 1880.

3 posted on 02/25/2008 4:36:15 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey, de Boer..then you just go right ahead and start without us...go on...go ahead...


4 posted on 02/25/2008 4:37:08 PM PST by DGHoodini (Yippie! Clipboard Magic 4.01 works with Vista SP2 !)
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To: NormsRevenge
The United States is the only major industrial nation to reject the U.N. climate treaty's Kyoto Protocol, which requires 37 nations to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions by an average 5 percent by 2012.

And aren't we one of only two of those major industrialized nations which had a drop in CO2 output last year?

5 posted on 02/25/2008 4:39:59 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: NormsRevenge
In other words, the idea here is for the U.S. to assume a disproportionate share of the pain.

Most Americans are well aware of the UN Globaloney scam and want no part of it. I'll tell de Boer what's a "nonstarter" -- any program that involves the UN in even the tiniest respect.

Eff the UN and especially their jackass spokeman, de Boer.

6 posted on 02/25/2008 4:40:05 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: NormsRevenge
The U.S. is prepared to enter into binding international obligations to reduce greenhouse gases as part of a global agreement in which all major economies similarly undertake binding international obligations," said Daniel Price, according to a BBC report.

Even this is the wrong position for the U.S. to take. But irregardless of one's position on global warming there is no logical rationale for the U.S. to be fored to reduce pollution and not China and the developing world.

7 posted on 02/25/2008 4:43:02 PM PST by plain talk
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8 posted on 02/25/2008 4:43:16 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: NormsRevenge

In other developments, more snow is covering the northern hemishpere than at any time since 1966 ... fact is, the Kyoto Protocal and all the puffery from the UN is just a weakly disguised trojan horse intended to undermine the US economy. They know it. We know it. The scary thing is that all the mewling liberals are frothing at the chance to open the gate.


9 posted on 02/25/2008 4:43:19 PM PST by BillyBonebrake
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To: NormsRevenge

Since Global Warming seems to be a dead issue because of Global Cooling, when is somebody going to stand up and put a halt to *any* political activities, national or international, based on the disproven theory?

Only fools go where their momentum is making them go, when they could change it, if it is obvious their momentum will carry them off a cliff.


10 posted on 02/25/2008 5:08:31 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: plain talk
Water rights are based on “first in time, first in right” and is a good template to follow for CO2 emissions rights. Allotting resources equally per person is called communism.
11 posted on 02/25/2008 5:23:52 PM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh yeah, let’s just shift all manufacturing to China, get them pumping out tons of pollution and then only penalize the US. Now THAT’S a nonstarter.


12 posted on 02/25/2008 5:29:40 PM PST by Sender (Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits.)
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To: mewzilla
Question for the UN: You and whose army?

They won't need an army. McCain, Her Thighness or B. Hussein will drop the preconditions and sign right up to wreck the US economy, and that of the rest of the west as well. No Problem.

13 posted on 02/25/2008 5:43:45 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Greenhouse gas" emission in the United States, per capita, has remained stable since 1990. It has increased over 4% in the EU.

Let these bloated bureaucratic swill clean their own house before telling us what to do.

14 posted on 02/25/2008 6:25:30 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: NormsRevenge

Bless George Bush for holding off the global warming crowd for 8 years. We would have been in deep do-do by now if Al Gore had been elected.


15 posted on 02/25/2008 6:35:40 PM PST by goldfinch
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To: NormsRevenge

NOTHING the U.N. ever does will have an effect on the climate.

They may go and play in the corner, but don’t bother communicating with America.


16 posted on 02/25/2008 6:38:42 PM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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17 posted on 02/25/2008 6:40:51 PM PST by Jim Noble (I've got a home in Glory Land that outshines the sun)
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To: NormsRevenge
Globaloney is "not realistic".

I am so tired of these clowns.

18 posted on 02/25/2008 9:04:19 PM PST by JasonC
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“But he said their insistence that China and other developing nations do the same ‘is not realistic.’”

Why not? China is the leading producer of CO2 gases in the world at a fraction of the US’ GDP.


19 posted on 02/26/2008 1:11:11 AM PST by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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20 posted on 02/26/2008 6:16:51 AM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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