Posted on 02/25/2008 2:46:08 PM PST by dynachrome
Wow, what a trip down memory lane,,,,I too had the soap in the mouth experience, ivory soap, not very tasty,,,that coupled with the “wait til your father gets home” worked like a charm! I used the soap on my kids one day, I can still remember it, I’m lol now cuz I can picture the two of them sitting side by side on the couch with a bar of soap hanging out of their mouths, lol, one had a bar of zest the other had irish spring, it only took that one time,,,,lol, it STILL works like a charm....after that all I had to do was mention the word soap and whatever was going on ended promptly! Aaaaaaaaaah, those were the days my FRiends!
For those who don’t know who Michael Savage is, he is an Ultra-conservative radio talk show host who hates gays, Muslims, liberals, corporations (specifically the ones that aren’t sponsoring him) and movies that win Oscars, apparently. Yesterday, in response to the Oscar picks, he was going on about how movies are leading to the moral decline of America because they feature stories that are sympathetic to villains, support unwed motherhood and lack true white (Caucasian) patriotic heroes. He therefore called for the reinstitution of the United States Motion Picture Production Code of 1930 which banned everything from depictions of safe-cracking and lustful kissing to content that did not uphold the sanctity of marriage. Upon reading the provisions it is clear that the code is a violation of the first amendment and is unconstitutional.
With regard to Savage, I personally find his speech completely intolerant, homophobic, racist and bigoted. But in America he should have the right to speak his mind. There is no question that he has benefited from the first amendment as he has invoked his right to free speech each time religious groups or GLAAD have sued him for defamation. This was this response in 2007 to a San Francisco Board of Supervisors resolution denouncing him;
“ Illiberalism is not only a mental disorder; it is fascist at its core. This schmuck says my comments are “symbolic of hatred and racism.” And they want the City to sue me for “symbolism.” There is no basis in American Law for such a suit but the larger point is the astonishing hate speech this putz is engaging in. To stop OPINION by threatening legal action is akin to using the power of the State to control thought and speech. This is something out of Kafka and the ex-Soviet Union. Moreover, this illegitimi is working on behalf of a foreign government AGAINST an American Citizen. Does this constitute harassment against me? My attorney will soon answer this question as I ponder suing the City of San Francisco”.
Seeing a clear contradiction in Savage’s reasoning I decided to call into his show and explain to him that his asking the government to censor movies he didn’t like was the same fascism that he apparently abhors. I began by reminding him that the type of censorship he was looking for was reminiscent of calls by Hillary Clinton, Joe Liebermann and Tipper Gore to ban violence in video games and that any time the government legislates personal morality that is fascist. What happened after that is difficult to discern, because we got into a big fight that ended up with my parts being muted out while he spoke, freely. Apparently, he’s only a champion of free-speech and expression when it agrees with him. A true American defends the speech of those with whom he or she disagrees. Two parts of the disagreement I would like to highlight, however, indicate just how delusional this man is.
He asked me if I liked watching people get sawed up by wood-chippers (a reference to a Cohen brothers film) to which I said, “no of course not”, to which he said “oh so we agree?”, and I answered, “no”. Confused he said “so we don’t agree?”, and I said “no it’s not for you or I to decide what people can and can’t see” To which he interrupted and said “OF COURSE IT IS UP TO ME, I’M IN THE MEDIA”.
While you are on the phone with these people you think that everything you are saying is making it on the air. But when the show played later in the evening and I could hear it, I found that they muted me whenever he spoke. At least one time they turned my mike back on mid sentence so that what was broadcasted from my end was nonsensical (which he made fun of). The end effect is to make the host seem intimidating to the caller as the caller does not speak when the host speaks…so no one heard me refute his point that “these movies are destroying children” by pointing out the obvious realization that children don’t watch Oscar movies because they are boring relative to the “hero” driven films they do watch like Transformers and Spider-man.
That aside, it should be no shock that he hung up on me while I was in mid-sentence. After doing so, he went on to make the point that I did not know the definition of fascism, saying; “fascism is the left- forcing me to watch these movies, my friend”. Obviously, no one is actually forcing Michael Savage to pay 10.00 dollars to see these films. No one is sewing his eyelids open and actually making him watch Michael Clayton. Like any good capitalist enterprise people vote with their hard-earned dollars, and if Hollywood is making films that don’t speak to the masses then they won’t be successful (a point I tried to make-but alas could not due to the muting of my phone). I know that I wasn’t interested in any of the Oscar films this year, and consequently did not see any of them. Those that know me know that I have an aversion to pretty much all best-picture winning films. However, just as Michael Savage has the right to continue spewing his hate speech, Hollywood has the right to produce films about gays, unwed mothers and violent-unamerican-psychopaths. For a man so obsessed with Kafka, Huxley and Orwell (as demonstrated by his constant references to “a brave new world” and “1984”) it is surprising that he fails to understand that fascism isn’t just the control he doesn’t agree with, but all forms of control. And by censoring his guests he is himself taking on the role of “big brother”. Most alarming, however, is his call for governmental control over the films we should be allowed to see. No one who truly understands and is informed by the writings of Orwell and Huxley could ever take such a position, and therefore I argue that it is Michael Savage that needs to be taught the definition of fascism. I should point out as a matter of extreme irony that Savage was awarded a “Freedom of Speech Award” by Talkers Magazine. Of course when C-SPAN would not play his pre-recorded speech (because they have a policy of not playing pre-recorded materials) he demanded his listeners protest C-SPAN’s censorship. Proving again that in Savage’s world censorship only applies when he’s the one being kept from speaking.
Signed up today to post this drivel on a day old thread?
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Houston, we have troll.
Oh brother.
funny stuff....stop
LOL....stop
Heeeeeheeeeeeeeee, we haven’t had a troll for a long time.....there must have been a full moon recently, all the whackos are coming out of the woodwork.
Troll alert, troll alert, troll alert, beep, beep, beep, troll alert, troll alert!
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How is it that you’re still around, DUmmie?
Besides, only Levinites are allowed to troll the Savage thread...newbie.
“only Levinites are allowed to troll the Savage thread’
LOL!
You must be one of those liberal gay Muslims who can’t get a job with a corporation to hate Michael Savage so much!
;)
ibtz
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