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America's grain stocks running short (food security and export control?)
The Grand Island Independent ^
| 02/24/08
| By Robert Pore
Posted on 02/25/2008 5:08:27 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: kabar
I know, back in the 1950’s there were fleets of old WWII Liberty Ships in the Hudson, and they were filling them with grain because they were out of storage silos.
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posted on
02/25/2008 11:27:37 AM PST
by
Lucius Cornelius Sulla
(Mike Huckabee: If Gomer Pyle and Hugo Chavez had a love child this is who it would be.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
The people who understand economics and government programs didn't think food would get cheaper. Did you? I've understood this from way back in the 70's when I chaffed under the 'Cheap Food for Consumers Programs' as a farmer myself.
From the ferociousness of the threads about food prices, I would say that the majority of folks here didn't realize it.
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posted on
02/25/2008 11:31:14 AM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: Etoo
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posted on
02/25/2008 11:31:21 AM PST
by
null and void
(The less you know, the better Hillary looks.)
To: Balding_Eagle
>>Should we do the same with the oil subsidies?
Depends on whether you're in favor of true free markets,
or if you're manipulating energy markets to realize the hypercapitalistic corporate communist empire envisioned by Bill Clinton's globalist mentor:
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posted on
02/25/2008 11:32:05 AM PST
by
Etoo
(I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
To: Gabz
Do I dare ask what that is????????Yes, you dare...
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posted on
02/25/2008 11:32:25 AM PST
by
null and void
(The less you know, the better Hillary looks.)
To: Balding_Eagle
Everyone thought food would get cheaper without those programs, I apologize. I misread your post. I thought it said food would get cheaper with these programs. Of course meddling with the markets and spending tax dollars will raise the cost we pay for food (and taxes).
You don't think these market meddling Congresscritters really lowered the cost to Americans for food, do you?
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posted on
02/25/2008 11:37:57 AM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
To: null and void
LOL!!!!
I think I’ll stick with corn and other veggies, rather than some sci-fi plants :)
107
posted on
02/25/2008 11:40:30 AM PST
by
Gabz
(Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
To: Gabz
You’re thinking of trifids. The Cobaifera tree is also know as the Diesel tree, its sap can be used as a motor fuel without further refining.
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posted on
02/25/2008 11:43:39 AM PST
by
null and void
(The less you know, the better Hillary looks.)
To: Balding_Eagle
[it was going to take some outside force acting on the market to push crop prices up]
Thanks for admitting that ethanol is not an economically viable energy source without government mandates.
So youre in favor of mandated ethanol consumption; Why not remove the government mandates and let the free market decide what farmers produce?
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posted on
02/25/2008 11:49:11 AM PST
by
Etoo
(I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
To: Balding_Eagle
Should we do the same with the oil subsidies? Would we be getting rid of taxes on oil? Would we get rid of the whining about oil imports?
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posted on
02/25/2008 11:50:01 AM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
To: upcountryhorseman
>>Buy oil stocks or grain futures!
When exactly was it, when morality became dependent upon the number of 0’s to the left of the decimal point on one’s portfolio statement?
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posted on
02/25/2008 11:58:12 AM PST
by
Etoo
(I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
To: Etoo
Exactly when you joined FreeRepublic and became an instant expert on how other people’s property should be valued. You’re free to buy as many bushels of corn and do whatever you want with them, eat them, feed them to your cows, give them away to the deserving inhabitants of some third world cesspool, whatever.
To: null and void
Gotcha! I was confugled :)
113
posted on
02/25/2008 12:06:33 PM PST
by
Gabz
(Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
To: Etoo
Why not remove the government mandates and let the free market decide what farmers produce? It's 2008. The Cheap Food for Consumers is out of business this year.
You have your wish.
Based on history, I'm guessing you're not going to be happy.
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posted on
02/25/2008 12:10:08 PM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: Etoo
Is that a long winded yes?
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posted on
02/25/2008 12:10:44 PM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
You don't think these market meddling Congresscritters really lowered the cost to Americans for food, do you? There's 50 years of history to back up up the fact they been very successful in doing so.
Well, OK, not Congress, but it is done by the USDA under their authority.
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posted on
02/25/2008 12:13:34 PM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: Gabz
*shrug* Welcome to my world!
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posted on
02/25/2008 12:14:07 PM PST
by
null and void
(The less you know, the better Hillary looks.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
No to both.
The question hangs in the air, should we end subsidies for oil?
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posted on
02/25/2008 12:15:37 PM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: Etoo
Thanks for admitting that ethanol is not an economically viable energy source without government mandates. You could have just asked, I would have given a candid answer.
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posted on
02/25/2008 12:17:09 PM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: null and void
I hear ya! I’m generally in the same world.
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posted on
02/25/2008 12:21:30 PM PST
by
Gabz
(Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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