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To: no nau

Isn’t this one of the fundamentalists who believes (among other things) that the earth is only 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs and man inhabited the earth at the same time?


16 posted on 02/24/2008 4:37:21 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Racists, criminals, and all the dregs only have a voice in one Party - all vote 'RAT)
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To: Matchett-PI

Does that make what he’s said here untrue?

We do all have the same evidence; it is interpreted based on our presumptions.


26 posted on 02/24/2008 4:51:51 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Matchett-PI

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/key-age-of-earth


67 posted on 02/24/2008 5:56:12 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Matchett-PI
Nah, they think the world is 8637 years old, and it’s birthday is next Tuesday.
68 posted on 02/24/2008 5:58:00 PM PST by MindBender26 (Ugliness can be cured by a light switch.)
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To: Matchett-PI
Isn’t this one of the fundamentalists who believes (among other things) that the earth is only 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs and man inhabited the earth at the same time?

What's your relativistic inertial reference frame? A perpetual calendar travelling at 99.99999999999% of the speed of light would mark out 6,000 years while 15 billion years elapsed here on Earth. 15 billion or six days? Today, we look at time going backward. We see 15 billion years. Looking forward from when the universe is very small - billions of times smaller - the Torah / Bible says six days. In truth, they both may be correct. What's exciting about the last few years in cosmology is we now have quantified the data to know the relationship of the "view of time" from the beginning, relative to the "view of time" today. It's not science fiction any longer. Any one of a dozen physics text books all bring the same number. The general relationship between time near the beginning and time today is a million million. That's a 1 with 12 zeros after it. So when a view from the beginning looking forward says "I'm sending you a pulse every second," would we see it every second? No. We'd see it every million million seconds. Because that's the stretching effect of the expansion of the universe. The Torah doesn't say every second, does it? It says Six Days. How would we see those six days? If the Torah says we're sending information for six days, would we receive that information as six days? No. We would receive that information as six million million days. Because the Torah's perspective is from the beginning looking forward. Six million million days is a very interesting number. What would that be in years? Divide by 365 and it comes out to be 16 billion years. Essentially the estimate of the age of the universe. Not a bad guess for 3000 years ago. The way these two figures match up is extraordinary. I'm not speaking as a theologian; I'm making a scientific claim. I didn't pull these numbers out of hat. That's why I led up to the explanation very slowly, so you can follow it step-by-step. Now we can go one step further. Let's look at the development of time, day-by-day, based on the expansion factor. Every time the universe doubles, the perception of time is cut in half. Now when the universe was small, it was doubling very rapidly. But as the universe gets bigger, the doubling time gets exponentially longer. This rate of expansion is quoted in "The Principles of Physical Cosmology," a textbook that is used literally around the world. (In case you want to know, this exponential rate of expansion has a specific number averaged at 10 to the 12th power. That is in fact the temperature of quark confinement, when matter freezes out of the energy: 10.9 times 10 to the 12th power Kelvin degrees divided by (or the ratio to) the temperature of the universe today, 2.73 degrees. That's the initial ratio which changes exponentially as the universe expands.) The calculations come out to be as follows: • The first of the Biblical days lasted 24 hours, viewed from the "beginning of time perspective." But the duration from our perspective was 8 billion years. • The second day, from the Bible's perspective lasted 24 hours. From our perspective it lasted half of the previous day, 4 billion years. • The third day also lasted half of the previous day, 2 billion years. • The fourth day - one billion years. • The fifth day - one-half billion years. • The sixth day - one-quarter billion years. When you add up the Six Days, you get the age of the universe at 15 and 3/4 billion years. The same as modern cosmology. Is it by chance? But there's more. The Bible goes out on a limb and tells you what happened on each of those days. Now you can take cosmology, paleontology, archaeology, and look at the history of the world, and see whether or not they match up day-by-day. And I'll give you a hint. They match up close enough to send chills up your spine. Go directly to Dr. Schroeder's book, Genesis and the Big Bang, at Amazon books. Dr Gerald Schroeder received PhD's in Oceanography and Nuclear Physics from MIT, and was on their staff for seven years. He did extensive work with the Atomic Energy Commission. Dr. Schroeder now lives with his family in Jerusalem, Israel. He is the author of Genesis and the Big Bang and The Science of God, which has been translated into six languages.

202 posted on 02/24/2008 9:51:23 PM PST by Mogollon (Vote straight GOP for congress....our only protection against Obama-Clinton, or McCain.)
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