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To: Bob J

Two very simple reasons.

First the handwriting is on the wall for anyone willing to see it. McCain isn’t going to win. He’s winning primaries with around half the votes Hillary is losing with.

Second, I see no reason to vote for a losing candidate AND give the GOP a go ahead for a further leftward slide. Instead I’ll write in a conservative candidate to show what I want to see from the GOP.


4 posted on 02/23/2008 11:02:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick Opposed to McCain.))
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To: cripplecreek

You keep stating that. That doesn’t mean anything. In 2000 and 2004 more people voted the democratic primaries than in Republican primaries, big whop-tee-doo.

My Dad was a registered democrat in NC until the 90s. He did it so he could vote in primaries. He also voted for the candidate he thought the GOP could beat.


29 posted on 02/23/2008 11:07:59 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: cripplecreek

“First the handwriting is on the wall for anyone willing to see it. McCain isn’t going to win. He’s winning primaries with around half the votes Hillary is losing with.”

Baloney. McCain is presently polling ahead of both O&H so you’re statement doesn’t hold water. Of course, anything can happen between now and Nov but to make that statement now is silly.

“Second, I see no reason to vote for a losing candidate AND give the GOP a go ahead for a further leftward slide.”

If the GOP slides left we buckle down and work harder to bring it back more to the right. Capitulation only puts you on the outside looking in. Much less chance of changing anything.


43 posted on 02/23/2008 11:11:35 AM PST by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: cripplecreek
Two very simple reasons.

First the handwriting is on the wall for anyone willing to see it. McCain isn’t going to win. He’s winning primaries with around half the votes Hillary is losing with.

Second, I see no reason to vote for a losing candidate AND give the GOP a go ahead for a further leftward slide. Instead I’ll write in a conservative candidate to show what I want to see from the GOP.

If those reasons were true, I'd see your point. But, your conclusions are not true, it's just what you think and what others here are encouraging as outlined by the thread starter.

On the first point, the fact is, McCain is just liberal enough to win in a country, America, that has gone to the left of center. Obama and Hillary scare a lot of people in this time of war and terror. Their programs will cost a ton of money in a time of recession or near recession. They can be beat if we all decide that it must be done. Keep in mind that Bush won, barely, once and Bush is not that different from McCain.

On the second point - it's purely nonsensical and not well thought out - your vote for someone that's not running is not a statement that will be worthy of review - it simply will show that you are far, far right and, unfortunately must be written off by the GOP as you are unwilling to compromise anything to save America from the far, far left. Shame on you.

Vote McCain. Every vote is needed and it's all about the Supreme Court judges that will be appointed in the next 4-8 years.

80 posted on 02/23/2008 11:20:05 AM PST by Sonora
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To: cripplecreek

I voted for obama in the primary and will vote for McCain in the general. I’m sure that I’m not the only one.

Also, a lot can happen between now and November.

The reason i can support McCain is because I believe he will deliver Sandra Day O’Conner types to the SC. This is not good, but much better than what the democrats, who would give us...Ruth bader Ginsburg.


103 posted on 02/23/2008 11:24:07 AM PST by proudpapa (May God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: cripplecreek
First the handwriting is on the wall for anyone willing to see it. McCain isn’t going to win. He’s winning primaries with around half the votes Hillary is losing with.

Not a logical conclusion. It is quite likely people are bypassing the primaries because they see no differences in the candidates, or no candidate they are excited about. However, that does not mean they will sit out the general election. The Dem candidate is going to be bad news for the nation, and they may see McCain as a far less destructive course.

I don't know what I'm going to do yet.

135 posted on 02/23/2008 11:33:06 AM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: cripplecreek

“First the handwriting is on the wall for anyone willing to see it. McCain isn’t going to win. “

That’s nonsense. We have seen a lot worse polling for Republican nominees who went on to win.
McCain is even in Ohio vs Obama, well ahead in FL, VA, and close in PA and Oregon. He is doing better now than Bush was doing around this time in 2004.

More importantly, the Obama image is a lot more moderate than Obama reality. The media loves Obama and has built up a junior senator with a thin resume and a marxist background as the savior. Uninformed young people are getting herded into flocking to him. ... But he’s the most liberal Senator in the SU Senate, his record is Ted Kennedy, and his foreign policy is soft-on-enemies and tough-on-US-taxpayers.

“Second, I see no reason to vote for a losing candidate AND give the GOP a go ahead for a further leftward slide.”
Defining where the GOP goes is a matter for the GOP primary, not the general election. the general election is about where the *country* will go. And letting Obama win is letting America take a sharp left turn.

“Instead I’ll write in a conservative candidate to show what I want to see from the GOP.” - I will be doing that ... In the primary. In the general election, we need to defeat the left-liberal pro-amnesty pro-UN-tax anti-Iraq-war anti-Bush-tax-cut pro-abort pro-judicial-activism pro-socialized-medicine Barack Obama.


166 posted on 02/23/2008 11:43:19 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: cripplecreek
>>> He’s winning primaries with around half the votes Hillary is losing with. <<<

The "in power" party traditionally has less drawing power in the primaries than the "out of power" party.

You are evidently more worried about an erosion of the Party than the erosion of the nation with 3 new liberal supreme court justices, Lord knows how many anti-gun laws, an era of unprecedented hate for corporations and a wave of welfare-statism the likes of which we haven't seen since FDR

>>> Instead I’ll write in a conservative candidate... <<<

I respect your intent to fart upwind.

181 posted on 02/23/2008 11:49:33 AM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: cripplecreek

Do you think anybody is going to read who you write in?


217 posted on 02/23/2008 12:04:05 PM PST by John Robie
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To: cripplecreek
Two very simple reasons.

First the handwriting is on the wall for anyone willing to see it. McCain isn’t going to win. He’s winning primaries with around half the votes Hillary is losing with.

Second, I see no reason to vote for a losing candidate AND give the GOP a go ahead for a further leftward slide. Instead I’ll write in a conservative candidate to show what I want to see from the GOP.

Hey, that's a great way to look at it. Obama will be a much better President than McCain would be. McCain only 'talked' about Amensty, but Obama has promised the first thing he's going to do is pass the DREAM ACT and then grant amnesty to all those who are here illegally. He's got the other half of the McCain/Kennedy amnesty legislation in his ear giving him directions. Once that happens, the GOP is D.E.A.D. There will be millions of new DemonRAT voters that will prevent us from winning another election anyway, so it's the last time that we can show the GOP we're not going to put up with them any longer. Once LaRaza and MEChA get organized we will have a new Latino government from then on out. Just like what has happened in LA! Have you started learning to speak Spanish yet? I have. LOL

364 posted on 02/23/2008 1:31:27 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: cripplecreek; Bob J

If McCain wins, the GOP will interpret it to mean that conservatives no longer matter. That will destroy the Republican Party, but more importantly: the nation.


598 posted on 02/23/2008 7:40:27 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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