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To: JasonC
I care about the world because I live there, not in your mind.

Jason, please tell me how these bills have improved the world:

- Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (aka: McCain-Feingold)
- The Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act (aka: McCain-Kennedy)
- McCain-Edwards-Kennedy Patients' Bill of Rights (aka: McCain-Edwards)
- The Lieberman-McCain Climate Stewardship Act (aka: McCain-Lieberman)

245 posted on 02/23/2008 12:14:46 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier ("There is only one reason to be a Christian: because it's true" – Francis Schaeffer)
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To: The Citizen Soldier
(1) made no difference in practice, but is bad law and should be rejected by the courts. Bush shouldn't have signed, blame him too. But practical effect, nil. US democracy is too vibrant to be regulated by such things, and financing it remains an orgy.

(2) made no difference because it didn't pass, was urged by Bush, blame him too. Practical effect, nil.

(3) There is no patient bill of rights, it failed, see Dem debate where the Brett girl named it his greatest accomplishment. Bad idea, but practical effect, nil.

(4) Newt is looking for much the same, but not advisable, practical effect nil, pres isn't going to go along with Kyoto stuff.

It is all chickenfeathers, in the military euphemism, cleaned up for FR standards. McCain has been a legislator for 25 years, legislators can't pass anything without being bipartisan because that is the genius of Madison's system. Too partisan things are still attempted, they routinely die, all they do is position pols ideologically. The remainder of the charge amounts to, McCain is a squish not RWR. Duh, so is Bush, who was with him on half your cherry picked list and much else that riles conservatives, besides. Most importantly immigration, which is the only non-chickenfeathers issue really divding McCain from conservatives. There he is just right where Bush was and is.

274 posted on 02/23/2008 12:35:51 PM PST by JasonC
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