A Question for FR McCain Detractors

Why are you asking questions that have been answered so many times already on various threads? McCain has already lost the election. Better to get over it and focus on the next battle: Congress.

Another BIG Bump!

It is probably time for most conservatives to quit worrying about this election. The GOP is really not interested in our backing this time. They want to win with moderates and independents to prove their point that there is no such thing as Reagan conservatism left in the world today.

Maybe they are correct, or maybe they are totally wrong, we will find out in November.

This time around? If folks want to vote for McCain, fine. For those who do not want to cast a vote for him, fine too.

The outcome remains to be seen. For me, I will stick to my own principle, even if it doesn’t please the GOP masses.

So why are you working so hard, so viscerlly, so nasty, to turn votes against McCain?

He's unfit for office.

Free Republic Opinion Poll:
Would you be for or against McCain?
Member Opinion
against 92.4% 2,989
for 7.6% 247

McCain: Hillary Would Be Good President Feb. 2005

How John McCain Threatens the Pro-Life Cause By Douglas Johnson NRLC Legislative Director

More YOUTUBE - McCain On Abortion (UH OH! YouTube Has a Video of Him in 1999)

McCain and Stem Cell Research Round-up

Tom Delay On Faux "McCain Has Done More To Hurt The Party" VIDEO

John McCain: "My Conservative Record" YouTube VIDEO

McCain and 'the Constitution'

John McCain, Jack Kemp and Hugo Chavez.

MORE GUN CONTROL: McCAIN-LIEBERMAN FR April '01

Gun Owners of America on McCain's Record.

GUNS AND SCHOOLS: THE POLITICS (McCain tries to grab guns, 1999)

CITIZENS COMMITTEE URGES JOHN McCAIN TO RETIRE FROM UNITED STATES SENATE
Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA)

John McCain Losing His Cool YouTube video

Vietnam Veterans Against McCain YouTube video

McCain Argues for U.S. Troop Withdrawl from Somalia Mr. Blackhawk Down (YouTube VIDEO)

McCain Group Got Big Cable Donation Breath taking corruption, Senator!

THE PAMPERED POLITICIAN - John McCain Keating 5 and other things. FR Nov. '99

McCain gives nod to Kerry campaign (MAJOR RINO ALERT!) June 2003

MAFIA, EMPRISE, DELAWARE NORTH, DON BOLLES, BRUCE BABBITT, BILL CLINTON...AND JOHN McCAIN?
McCain married into the mob.

The Real McCain

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO"

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO" Part II

John McCain Is No Hero

John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate

JOHN MCCAIN, WARTS AND ALL

The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides

John McCain's Skeleton Closet

A number of articles on McCain. (some the same as above)

McCain Seeks to Change California Primary

John McCain funded by Soros since 2001

John McCain Gets Soros Cash

McCain/Soros by Rabbi Areyh Spero

McCain-Soros Toppled GOP Candidates Nov. 21, 2006

Soros' "Reform" (an article about Soros‘ instrumental hand in McCain/Feingold)

John McCain: George Soros' Useful Idiot?

Through The Weeds; John McCain, George Soros and the Reform Institute

McCain’s Reform Institute donor list:

Reform Institute greatfully acknowleges Sen. McCain as past Chairman:

McCain's Letter (McCain aligns with Global Enviro activists)

The Turning Point on Global Warming (McCain and Lieberman Op-Ed Alert)

Climate bill sets stage for debate (Sens. McCain, Obama, and Lieberman join forces)

McCain: Global warming is fact, must be addressed [hurl alert]

McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming (NH voter reminder ALERT

EIA's Analysis of the Lieberman-McCain Climate Change Bill Human Events

McCain's Nose-Under-the-Tent Strategy - McCain's "Climate Stewardship Act" (S. 139), co-sponsored with Senator Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.)

Kyoto Through the Back Door? A Debate on the Lieberman –McCain Climate Stewardship Act - Heritage Foundation

Promising Vote on Global Warming - "But Mr. McCain, as we know, does not give up easily. ... He promises to be just as tenacious on this issue."

McCain Is Booed by Labor Activists

Captains of Industry Could Populate McCain Cabinet ( Lieberman Potential Cabinet Member)

McCain Still Disliked by Fiscal Conservatives (Club For Growth)

McCain calls Jeffords' switch lesson for GOP FR May '01

McCain Antics Weary Arizonans in G.O.P. FR June '01

McCain may leave Republican Party to fight Bush in 2004 FR July '01

How Bill Kristol ditched conservatism. Great Escape (Gave floundering McCain 2000 campaign a direction.)

McCain may leave Republican Party to fight Bush in 2004
His staff set up policy think-tanks and other groups to lay the ideological foundations for another third-party challenge in the Bull Moose style.

McCain Looked into Caucusing with Democrats

John McCain Goes Left for Money

McCain, Obama Make Deal on Financing

Sens. Snowe, Collins to head Maine exploratory committee for McCain

John Kerry: McCain Approached Me About Joining Dem Ticket in 2004

Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP

McCain denies he was close to quitting GOP

Double Talk Express. McCain in his own words. VIDEO

John McCain's Newt Problem (Infidelity to first wife.)

How Cindy McCain was outed for drug addiction(stole drugs from the American Voluntary Medical Team) (McCain used his influence to cover it up.)

McCain and his Chicom Connections: Posts #17 and #18 by Calpernia

TEN REASONS NOT TO SUPPORT MCCAIN (Free Republic thread from 2000)

McCain Ties to Lobbyists Troublesome - Newsmax Staff

McCain Blames Bush For Osama's Escape

McCain Rides to Kerry's Rescue: "John Kerry is Not Weak on Defense" (Today Show alert)

The Real McCain Record Obstacles in the way of conservative support.

McCain Is the Amnesty Candidate

John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS

It depends on the meaning of “never” (McCain's Convenient Memory)

UN Double Talk from Straight Talker McCain (Law of the Sea Treaty)

The Conservative Case Against John McCain In 2008

John McCain: Hypocrite by Mark R. Levin

This Man is Not a Republican (re: McCain) (FR thread - Jan. 2000)

Freeper Alert: Sen. KERRY / Communist Vietnamese Killing Off Christains in Central Highlands... (...with Senator McCAIN (R) in complete agreement with him, is because "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run.)

McCAIN AND THE KLA CONNECTION

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McCain says:

"Why don't you shut your political pie hole?"

Stifling the www? Online Freedom of Speech Act (H.R. 1606)

"1606 is needed because federal courts have ordered the Federal Election Commission to regulate "electioneering communications" on the Internet because of the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform Act (McCain-Feingold). If H.R. 1606 fails to become law, your Web site or blog could be shut down for the 30 days prior to a primary election and the 60 days prior to a general election should you express "electioneering communications."

John McCain, enemy of free speech

Not Child‘s Play [McCain/Schumer bill could effect FR?]

John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts... (thread by Jim Robinson)

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FR links on McCain's record from Feb. 2000. MrChips collection.

Two very simple reasons.
First the handwriting is on the wall for anyone willing to see it. McCain isn’t going to win. He’s winning primaries with around half the votes Hillary is losing with.

Second, I see no reason to vote for a losing candidate AND give the GOP a go ahead for a further leftward slide. Instead I’ll write in a conservative candidate to show what I want to see from the GOP.

Hey, that's a great way to look at it. Obama will be a much better President than McCain would be. McCain only 'talked' about Amensty, but Obama has promised the first thing he's going to do is pass the DREAM ACT and then grant amnesty to all those who are here illegally. He's got the other half of the McCain/Kennedy amnesty legislation in his ear giving him directions. Once that happens, the GOP is D.E.A.D. There will be millions of new DemonRAT voters that will prevent us from winning another election anyway, so it's the last time that we can show the GOP we're not going to put up with them any longer. Once LaRaza and MEChA get organized we will have a new Latino government from then on out. Just like what has happened in LA! Have you started learning to speak Spanish yet? I have. LOL

...the MSM are going to blame conservatives for the loss...

The blame belongs on the candidate. Was it the consumers fault that NewCoke failed?

If you can’t figure it out, no one here is going to be able to explain it to you.

Free speech blackout periods within 30 days of a primary and 60 days of a general election are very clear infringements on free speech, not just “bad law”....despite whatever colorful farm phrase you wish to call it.

It’s not about “changing politics”....it’s about violating YOUR First Amendment rights to protect incombents, which you don’t seem to mind. How many other clear Constitutional rights will you not mind McCain directly violating?

Go ahead and pool your money with your neighbors and put an ad out in September mentioning a federal candidate by name and advocating for or against said candidate.....and see what happens.

I guarantee it won’t involve bird feathers or pig skins.

I find it amazing how many on here live and die by THE POLLS despite the fact that they always end up being the exact opposite when it gets down to the actual poll, the election. I wonder how many on here will be blown away by the actual results on election day just like they were at the results of the ‘06 election?

I can not vote for a man I can not trust.

Well said. My feelings exactly.

I learned long ago you can’t make an emotional person understand logic. McCain was not my first choice but I happen to want a decent future for my children and grandchildren. What will be left after a Clinton or Obama Presidency will be totally unrecognizable, in my opinion.

I hate to tell you but the war is over, 65% of the Americans people say so, therefore it is just a matter of time, whether 12 months are 24 months.

See Post 333.

Abraham Lincoln lost battle after battle in the first half of the war but he was a great leader that eventual won the war because he LED the people and explained to them WHY Victory was important instead tallying up the percentage of the people who believed the war was lost.

Ditto for Winston Churchill.

What this contry is suffering from right now is a total lack of effective leadership and a "CAN'T DO" spirit.

Such a spineless nation cannot survive for very long.

You can be a part of that if you wish. I won't be.

Leaders lead and inspire.

Leaders do not turn tail and run when 65% of everybody else have defeated themselves.

Battle of Bull Run: ........ Bee had aimed to retire in something like order to the plateau near the Henry house, and make a stand there, in a stronger position ; but the quick eye of the soldier now told him that all was lost. No exertions which he made could restore good order; and though he rode to and fro, amid the storm of bullets, beseeching the troops by all they held dear to rally to their colors until reenforcements came, he could not reform his line. His voice was not heard, or his commands were disobeyed. All was over. ........... All at once Bee appeared, approaching at full gallop, and he and Jackson were soon face to face. The latter was cool and composed; Bee, covered with dust and sweat, with his drawn sword in his hand, his horse foaming. In the bitter despair of his heart he could only groan out, " General, they are beating us back ! " The face of Jackson betrayed no corresponding emotion. He had his " war look" on, but that was never a look of excitement. His eye glittered, and, in the curt tone habitual with him, he said coolly, " Sir, we will give them the bayonet." These words seemed to act upon Bee like the ring of a clarion. He galloped back to his men, and, pointing with his sword to Jackson, shouted, " Look! there is Jackson standing like a stone wall! Let us determine to die here, and we will conquer ! " His command was partially rallied ; the detachments took their position on the right, and Jackson's line swept steadily on toward the plateau. In a moment the whole aspect of affairs had undergone a change. The Federal forces, which were rushing forward in pursuit of the broken battalions of Bee, saw themselves suddenly confronted by 2,600 bayonets, and their advance was checked.

Bob, I know that you know better than this.

You left out the most important group:
Those that recognize that electing McCain, Hitlery, or Osama will do irreparable harm, and are doing what they can to derail McCain in hopes of somehow still getting a candidate that at worst will do no harm.

“He won’t ask anyone’s permission.”

Now now, we know by his history that all a lefty has to do is voice an objection to achieve Juanito’s capitulation.

Conservatism loses again.

Thank you. Glad we could agree on this one.

Thank you.

" I'd imagine it's because people come to FR to debate the issues and attempt to persuade others to their viewpoint."

Thank you!

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At least with ObamaorHill, we get the House back.

I was a proud poster on your drinking thread, a great idea that night.

You have to remember we have been fighting, not Pelosi, not Reed, not even Clinton the last 8 years. We have been fighting McCain. It is hard to think of him as on "our side".

Since I cannot vote against candidates, only for a candidate, I cannot find a reason for vote for McCain.

I don’t want him in office. I am not going to help elect him.

If I could vote against candidates I would.

But votes are and affirmative statement.

I guess it is easy to have principles as long is they don’t cause problems, hardships, or cost you anything.

Principles are easy as long as they are convenient aren’t they?

“As flawed as McCain is there is no way a logical case can be made that we would be better off under Obama or Hillary (O&H).”

Haven’t read this very long thread, but my answer is that Republicans and conservatives will be better off in the long run with Hillary or Obama in the White House, and then Republicans in Congress growing a pair and fighting the Dems. loony initiatives with every means available.

Then, as in 1994, a couple of years of a Dem. President and Congress will spook many Americans and the Republicans should make substantial gains in 2010 and begin to regain their political power, enough to thwart Dem. plans afterwards, as in 1994.

Having McCain “reaching across the aisle” and taking many RINOs along, with a Dem. majority in Congress, would be the worst of all possible worlds. Except for a few issues, McCain is a liberal, and only a Republican probably because he can’t stomach the Dem’s perennial anti-military attitudes and policies.

And on judges, McCain could get no one confirmed without the prior approval of Patrick Leahy and Teddy Kennedy. No huge advantage or danger there, and the Republicans need to learn to fight unacceptable judicial nominees as ruthlessly as the Dems. Learn to Bork. Learn to filibuster nominees.

And, Republicans would fight Dem. amnesty schemes, but probably cave in to McCain amnesty schemes.

No real advantages to having the almost a Dem. McCain in the White House. Better off fighting Dems. and rebuilding the party.