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SORRY ... BUT IT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH THE UNEDUCATED SOMETIMES.
NEA;Z NUZE ^ | 21 February 2008 | NEAL BOORTZ

Posted on 02/21/2008 8:26:51 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20

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To: Alas Babylon!
He means in the military (service). Are you saying you don’t want certain soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines being able to vote?

Yes, I am aware that he meant military service. I was saying that I don't want certain military personnel to have DOUBLE the vote that everyone else gets. Actually, I don't want ANY military personnel, or anyone else for that matter, to have DOUBLE the vote of everyone else.

81 posted on 02/21/2008 11:51:42 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: MrB

I’ve been saying that for years.


82 posted on 02/21/2008 11:52:36 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: Paige

I guess you are one of those, “I am never going to listen to you again” Neal loves to talk about?


83 posted on 02/21/2008 11:56:40 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Some just can’t handle the truth.


84 posted on 02/21/2008 12:04:00 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: Sprite518

Neal supports Homosexuals and pushes ABORTION. For a human being to put aniaml rights before a child is disgusting. In my own defense, I’ve tried many times to overlook his stupidity and ignorance in those particular areas because of his support of the President with the Global War on Terror, but today his whining on and on about stupid stuff proved he is a waste of air space.

For the record, people such as myself are the reason people like him have stayed on the air. My support has offically been pulled, because I refuse to support absolute morons.

Now go give him a big ole bear hug and tell Neal how wonderful he is while he is laughing on his way to the bank... (gag).


85 posted on 02/21/2008 12:14:30 PM PST by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: houstonman58
“That’s why there are uneven numbers of Justices on all Appeals Courts, and on SCOTUS, so that the majority will rule.”

I think you need to go back to school.

With the Judiciary Act of 1789, a total of six (Which is an even number by the way) USSC Justices were seated. The number would reach all the way to 10 (Which is an even number) and eventually settle with the nine we are unfortunate to have right now. The Constitution leaves the number (Any appellate court for that matter) up to Congress.

You mention the electoral college but do you realize in some States the electors are allowed to cast their EV to any candidate they desire and forgo "the people's will".

In 1913 democracy grew and our Republic form of government weakened. Limbaugh and Boortz are talking about the wisdom our founders had regarding the dangers of being too democratic of a nation when they awaken those who understood the warnings about "mob rule" and gave us a Constitutional Republic who "...are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights..."(In case one wants to compare Madison, Jefferson, Adams etc... to Adolph Hitler)

86 posted on 02/21/2008 12:34:11 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: capt. norm

If the dumb masses can be convinced
If you say that pair of words aloud, rapidly, it makes more sense.
***Somewhere in there is a great tagline.


87 posted on 02/21/2008 1:14:56 PM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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To: wintertime

Ping


88 posted on 02/21/2008 3:24:29 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

I rent also, and I still think it’s a good idea.


89 posted on 02/21/2008 3:48:43 PM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
" Don't you think that remark was just slightly out of place on this thread?"

It was obviously a drive-by. This Boortz guy does seem a little full of himself though. I've never had the easy opportunity to listen to him and really know nothing about him other than my recent investigation of the "FT" proposal.

90 posted on 02/21/2008 5:33:17 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

New quote!


91 posted on 02/21/2008 9:24:04 PM PST by NucSubs (Democrat:: one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses.)
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To: gracesdad

Blacks, hell no.

Women....

:-)


92 posted on 02/21/2008 9:36:59 PM PST by NucSubs (Democrat:: one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

As I understnad it from reading VDH (including “A War Like No Other” and “Who Killed Homer” that was true in Sparta and other places but not in the Delian League (especially Athens) which WAS more like a democracy.

In fact, that was what VDH attributes the Peloponnesian war to. Fear of Athens exporting democracy.


93 posted on 02/21/2008 9:42:24 PM PST by NucSubs (Democrat:: one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses.)
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To: NucSubs
New quote!

Cat on keyboard.

94 posted on 02/22/2008 8:53:30 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.)
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To: NucSubs

And, by the way — as you can well imagine, that was NOT a direct quote of what I said to said ‘cat on keyboard.’


95 posted on 02/22/2008 10:58:57 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

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96 posted on 02/22/2008 3:48:56 PM PST by NucSubs (Democrat:: one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses.)
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To: NucSubs
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1. I posted the article.
2. I postted no comment on the article, thus the # ` post was blank.
3. On post # 91 you Said "New Quote!!"
4. I took that to mean a humorous sarcasm meaning 'was the blank space some sort of a new quote?'; and
5. I posted # 94 "Cat on keyboard", which meant that one of my caats had jumped on the keyboard, hit a click on the mouse, posting the article before I got a chance to post a comment. That's all it meant.

97 posted on 02/22/2008 10:08:49 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.)
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To: rollo tomasi
"With the Judiciary Act of 1789, a total of six (Which is an even number by the way) USSC Justices were seated. The number would reach all the way to 10 (Which is an even number) and eventually settle with the nine,---

Yes, nine, which is of course an uneven number. There, I said it for you. The Judiciary was the slowest branch of government to develop over the years, but the Marshall Court, (1801 - 1836), ended the practice of each judge issuing his opinion seriatim, and instead one MAJORITY opinion, (there's that Democratic thing again), of the Court was issued. And this dates back to 1801.

The Constitution leaves the number (Any appellate court for that matter) up to Congress.

And Congress allowed an even number of SCOTUS Justices for only 21 years in American history. You have ,(conveniently, I suppose), omitted the fact that during the time between 6 and 10 SCOTUS Justices, the Congress appointed 7, (an odd number,), and then nine, (an odd number), and then 10 for only three years, after which Congress appointed 7 again through attrition, by disallowing three Justices to have replacements. Then in 1869, (that's 169 years ago for those who may be math challenged), the Congress appointed 9 Justices, and it has remained that way ever since.

What do these trifling little facts mean? They mean that there were an even number of SCOTUS Justices for only a paltry total of 21 years of our nation's entire history. So it is safe to say, again, that the Supreme Court has historically held an UNEVEN number of Justices, just as there has historically been an uneven number of Appeals Court Judges, usually three, (that's an odd number). This concept of a Democratic system within our higher Courts is no recent development as you tried to claim, it is long-standing American history.

You mention the electoral college but do you realize in some States the electors are allowed to cast their EV to any candidate they desire and forgo "the people's will".

Yes I do realize that, though I don't recall it ever happening. None-the-less, a candidate's still needs a majority of the electoral votes, (270 or more), to win. So once again we see a democratic, majority system at the heart of American politics, no matter how you slice it, dice it or festoon it.

In 1913 democracy grew and our Republic form of government weakened. Limbaugh and Boortz are talking about the wisdom our founders had regarding the dangers of being too democratic of a nation when they awaken those who understood the warnings about "mob rule"---

And again I ask, who the hell says that a majority must be a "mob"? Why do Limbaugh and others try to make 'majority' and 'mob' synonymous with each other? What's up with that? How many times have we seen the minority become a mob rule, such as the buring down of cities by blacks demanding rights? Or by millions of illegal aliens trying to bring the nation to a halt with a massive economic boycott, brandishing foreign flags to symbolize Mexican sovereignty, giving foul gestures to citizens. The only "mob rule" I've ever seen in the U.S. is that of minorities, not the majority. Maybe it's time for the majority to use a little Democracy and take back America.

By the way, I do not claim to know if a Democracy is better than a Republic, or a Democratic Republic is better than a Kingdom, or if a Kingdom is better than a Banana Republic. I do know that nations come and nations go, and even the mightiest will eventually fall, with no exceptions. What worries me most about America isn't whether or not we're a democracy or a republic, but that we have become a corrupt, morally rotten nation that is decaying from within. We are decaying not due only to miscreant politicians like Bill Clinton or inept leaders like GW Bush, but because of the erosion of faith and morals in the American people. A moral and religious American citizenry would not elect, nor would they endure corrupt politicians for long. In the end, we get what we deserve.

98 posted on 02/24/2008 9:30:49 PM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: FJB2

From the OxFord Companion to American Law, edited by Kermit Hall, 2002 Oxford Univ Press,article on “Privacy”, pgs 637-639:

“But the word “Privacy” does not appear in the Constitution.”

But the SCOTUS has used that word in some of it’s rulings, for example: “Griswold vs Connecticut” 1965, with references to the First,Third,Fourth,Fifth, and Ninth Amendments. Also in the “Roe vs Wade” 1972, the word was used in the majority opinion over a woman’s use of her body..It was also used in subsequent Supreme Court rulings broadening it’s impact, such as in “Cruzan vs Director” 1990 case which was the right to die case..

Justice Brandeis originally touched on the concept in his dissenting opinion on “Olmstead vs United States”, a 1929 wiretapping case. He said the “Founders conferred, as against the Government, the right to be left alone-the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men.”


99 posted on 02/24/2008 11:11:07 PM PST by billmor
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To: houstonman58
Your “21” years explanation is a mute point. The point was that CONGRESS came up with the numbers not the CONSTITUTION. Hence the FOUNDERS who actually wrote the document contradicted everything you said in the initial post I responded to you.

Also there has been 156 instances of electors not voting in accords to the “will of the people” for various reasons.

Also a mob means “3 wolves voting ...” you should know the rest.

A Constitutional, Representative, Federalist Republic which uses democratic means as a way to establish government protects the lambs from the wolves and the central government from the States.

The more we move towards the direct rule of man, laws like illegal immigration will be ignored. Why? Because those that support (Businesses, farmers, the bastardization of the 14th Amendment by man, those who are sympathetic) the illegals will vote in politicians (Democracy) who ignore the law (Constitution). Which would you rather follow, the man or the law specifically spelled out by a Federal/State Constitutions.

100 posted on 02/25/2008 12:50:36 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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