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Doctors and teachers to act as 'informers' to target violent offenders BEFORE they strike[UK]
Daily Mail ^ | 19 Feb 2008 | Matthew Hickley

Posted on 02/20/2008 11:56:29 AM PST by BGHater

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Correct Title: Doctors and teachers to act as 'informers' to target violent offenders BEFORE they strike under controversial new 'Minority Report' plans

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'Ministers hope that by spotting binge-drinkers, drug addicts and young gang members early before they commit serious crimes they can be placed on a national database and steered away from offending behaviour.'

Awesome. Add people who like liberty, guns, speech, religion. Offending behaviour.

1 posted on 02/20/2008 11:56:33 AM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Are they doing anything to identify people who show signs of totalitarian behavior?


2 posted on 02/20/2008 11:59:01 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: BGHater

Who will watch the watchers?


3 posted on 02/20/2008 12:00:05 PM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: BGHater

I’m trying to picture the drunk, violently-inclined young street thug who’s about to bludgeon or stab somebody to death for a wallet, thinking to himself: “Oh dear me, I can’t kill this guy after all, as I’m on a national database.”


4 posted on 02/20/2008 12:06:49 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Gabz

nanny state ping!

not that this isn’t already happening here. in MI, if you tell your doctor you drink often, he can report it to secretary of state, and voila! you can lose your license.


5 posted on 02/20/2008 12:09:55 PM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: BGHater

Oh, this is a great plan.

You know you have too many government employees when they can waste time dreaming up this kind of excrement.


6 posted on 02/20/2008 12:22:46 PM PST by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: All

(”analyst”,”psychiatrist”) = INQUISITOR


7 posted on 02/20/2008 12:33:07 PM PST by Mike Acker
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To: BGHater
*police radio static*......"Individual was overheard to say that sodomy is sinful.....individual may pose violent threat to homosexual males........arrest and detain......over".........*police radio static*

*radio static*......."Roger that.........over" *radio static*

8 posted on 02/20/2008 12:42:27 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: BGHater; Gabz; elkfersupper

A chill just went up my spine!


9 posted on 02/20/2008 12:53:11 PM PST by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Early this morning I caught a part of The French Connection II; Popeye Doyle has gone to France to catch the drug kingpin and gets unsatisfactory reaction and assistance from the Marseilles gendarmes; he leaves the station in disgust and bluster and sets off on his own to walk the streets in search of his target.

After an evening of bribing a bartender with drinks and getting pretty looped himself he comes out arm in arm with the tipsy bartender and notices these two rather clumsily dressed ‘undercover’ cops across the street.

After a few uneventful scenes we catch up with Doyle at the beach watching a volley ball game and tries to hit on a svelte young thing in a bikini when the ball bounces away and into Popeye’s grasp.

Just then the camera pans to an interior of a waterfront cafe nearby where the object of Doyle’s search is making final arrangements with a civilian clothes garbed U.S. military officer - identified by the bagged dry-cleaned uniform he picks up as he leaves the table.

The kingpin glances out the window and spots Doyle still at the balcony where he is trying to flirt with the girl.

The kingpin realizes he is close to apprehension and must do something.

A couple of scenes later after Doyle is seen arguing loudly with the head of the police station and demanding that his tails be taken off we catch up to him in a seedy alley with rundown storefronts and dirty garbage-strewn streets.

Looking over his shoulder, Popeye sees the cops in their guarded stance and ducks inside an open door just as a garbage truck comes rumbling by.

The two tails dash in after him as the truck moves forward and we watch Doyle leap off the back of the truck, satisfied that he has slipped his tormentors.

Just as Doyle turns a corner toward his newfound freedom, a nondescript sedan sweeps to a stop and a henchman of the kingpins hits Doyle in the head with a mighty swing of a truncheon and the others shovel him into the backseat and drive away.

Now here we have a perfect con, Doyle sees the cops sent to protect him, they still see him and try to hide, the kingpin sees Doyle while Doyle’s trying to see the kingpin, the cops lose Doyle when he spots them again, and the hitmen see Doyle while he isn’t looking.

Sometimes all the looking in the world just don’t pay off like you thought it would.


10 posted on 02/20/2008 12:56:37 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: BGHater

Here’s an interesting blog to read http://coppersblog.blogspot.com/
Let’s hope that our own police officers don’t get tied down like these guys have been. (The officer who started the blog is now living in Canada and working as a police officer there.)


11 posted on 02/20/2008 12:59:59 PM PST by diefree
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Doctors, teachers and social workers will be told to act as informers to identify potential violent offenders

What a joke. Social workers don't even follow up on existing reports of child abuse.

12 posted on 02/20/2008 1:00:04 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: absolootezer0

A few weeks ago, while in the E.R. with a case of acute pnuemonia, I’m lying in the bed while one nurse is inserting an i.v. and on my other side another nurse is doing the in room triage. My husband is standing at the foot of the bed. The “triage nurse” turns and asks me about my home life, who I live with, etc. The very next question was “Do you feel safe at home?” I gave her the “is this a serious question” look and told her “I do, but my husband and kids may not”. I thought she was going to fall over from laughing. She said “I know, I know, stupid question with your husband standing right there”. I was like uh, yeah!


13 posted on 02/20/2008 1:21:23 PM PST by Redlocks II (Formerly "Redlocks"... Thanks for the help with the username Jim :-))
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its more fun when, right after that, they ask, “would you like us to have your husband leave the room, so you can answer that again?”

now just wait until the first time they ask YOU to leave the room so they can ask your children that. but make sure you don’t leave the room, because we now know that “not getting proper medical treatment” is enough reason to call in SWAT to remove the child from your custody.


14 posted on 02/20/2008 1:31:35 PM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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I don't understand... what is the justification for the question? You were sick not beat up so I would expect the questions to center on family and personal medical history, diet, exercise and allergies...

Was any explanation given?

15 posted on 02/20/2008 1:36:48 PM PST by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: absolootezer0

I LOVE your tag line.... it’s great!!


16 posted on 02/20/2008 1:42:01 PM PST by Redlocks II (Formerly "Redlocks"... Thanks for the help with the username Jim :-))
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To: NativeSon

No, she just said “I have to ask”. I wasn’t beat up or anything of the sort - I was just really sick.

Apparently it’s a “new thing” if you go to the doctor or hospital in Central Texas now they “have to ask”.


17 posted on 02/20/2008 1:44:46 PM PST by Redlocks II (Formerly "Redlocks"... Thanks for the help with the username Jim :-))
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To: BGHater

You’re kidding me

They should have been doing this all along.


18 posted on 02/20/2008 1:51:13 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Redlocks II

thank you :)


19 posted on 02/20/2008 1:51:27 PM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: absolootezer0

Yeah, and as bad as I felt at the time, I was really annoyed to have to answer a question like that. I was totally being sarcastic and she knew that and erupted in laughter, but I suppose had she not “gotten it”, I might have been faced with a visit from a social worker or something.... and THAT’S the scary part.


20 posted on 02/20/2008 1:52:33 PM PST by Redlocks II (Formerly "Redlocks"... Thanks for the help with the username Jim :-))
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