[RJL]

But he wants to kill lots and lots of Islamofascists and their running dog lackeys.

So McCain claims, but he draws the line at pouring water up the nostrils of terrorists, scaring them, but causing no real damage.

His two positions contradict one another.

[muawiyah]

It's not exactly pouring water up the nostrils of anyone. I really wish folks'd get this straight. It's a situation thing plus a wet rag, or water washing over your face ~ maybe not even that much water.

The point is to convince someone they could suffocate or drown ~ not actually to suffocate or drown them.

Get those old multi-million years old reflexes firing and they'll talk.