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Gunman's Contradictions Confound Police (NIU Murders)
ap.google.com ^ | Feb 17, 2008 | ASHLEY M. HEHER and CARYN ROUSSEAU

Posted on 02/19/2008 10:39:43 AM PST by Esther Ruth

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To: GourmetDan
I have seen it in people I know personally.

Friends trying to deal with the death of a loved-one get convinced they need some drug.

While on the drug they have incredible emotional side-affects, sleeping walking & talking, bizzare dreams, mood swings, suicidal thoughts.

When they quit taking the drugs they same problems get incredibly worse, until it is out of their systems.

I abhor what it has done to my friends.

21 posted on 02/19/2008 11:18:46 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: Pistolshot

As a diagnosed depressive myself, I thank God for my meds. These medicines do a world of good when used as prescribed, but can result in extremely unpredictable physical and psychological effects when users fail to follow prescribed instructions exactly. Withdrawal from their use can be especially tricky, and must be done carefully and under medical supervision — it can be a rough couple of days. I can vouch for the unpleasantness of cold-turkey withdrawal from SSRIs. (I’ve unexpectedly run out a couple of times and had to do without for short periods as a result.) One should NEVER go off one’s meds except when advised to do so by a licensed and certified physician.

I am grateful that SSRIs and other drug-based mood-disorder therapies are available, but people should always keep in mind that these are not candy, asprin, or magic feel-good pills. They are powerful psychoactive medicines and should be given the respect they deserve.


22 posted on 02/19/2008 11:19:22 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Sigurdrifta
According to the dictatorial socialists over at the VPC, if you WANT to own a firearm, it is de facto evidence of a mental disorder.

It's called "projection". Their abhorrence of anything remotely resembling self sufficiency, or the will power to discern right from wrong, lies at the heart of their own mental disorder.

23 posted on 02/19/2008 11:19:42 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: bboop
According to Fox News it was PAXIL.

24 posted on 02/19/2008 11:19:45 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: GourmetDan
Anybody else think it was taking the meds that messed him up in the first place?

No. They put him on meds for a reason ... and he didn't kill anybody until he stopped taking them.

25 posted on 02/19/2008 11:21:27 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Morgana
All kids today have weird tattoos. what does that have to do with anything?

None of my kids have tattoos, wierd or not.

26 posted on 02/19/2008 11:22:55 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dead Corpse

Yes, VPC is dangerous, but they are a private advocacy group, and what they “think” is not a big worry, at least for me. OTOH, the medical associations are powerful and advocate policies which, if passed into law, could adversely affect all of us. (I’m thinking, for example, of the recent reported questioning of a child by a psychiatrist (IIRC, it may have been a pediatrician) about whether the child’s parents owned firearms).


27 posted on 02/19/2008 11:34:49 AM PST by Sigurdrifta
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To: Morgana
All kids today have weird tattoos. what does that have to do with anything?

My kids don't have any tattoos. You are making an unsubstantiated generalization.

28 posted on 02/19/2008 11:35:06 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Esther Ruth

“Dunavan said he was so proud of the tattoo that he enlarged a photo of it and placed it on a wall in his shop — a move he is now rethinking. “

I don’t have a problem with the tatoos today. I do think it’s a little strange that everyone want’s/needs one. When growing up, the only people that ever got tattoos were military and bikers. Heck, I got one in the Marine Corps.

However it is the tatoos themselves. They worship blood and death. Same as a lot of these music groups out there. It’s also the same as a lot of these video games and slasher movies.

I’m not blaming any of these current cultural influences. They are the symptom, not the problem. I’m just wondering why the younger generation has such fascination with death??


29 posted on 02/19/2008 12:01:34 PM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Esther Ruth

I wonder about the timing of these massacres in relation to gun grabbers and election cycles. (But maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight.)


30 posted on 02/19/2008 12:10:04 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Refusing to calm down since the Waco massacre.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I tend to be a broken record. I think the answer to every problem is Jesus Christ.


31 posted on 02/19/2008 12:29:32 PM PST by Esther Ruth ( J E S U S C H R I S T IS LORD !!)
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To: Esther Ruth
And while they fiddle Rome will burn.

They are wasting their time trying to make every criminal fit into their profile. The can't prevent these things, because the next one won't fit their mold exactly either. The only sure way to mitigate this stuff is to encourage and enable people to defend themselves.

32 posted on 02/19/2008 12:40:53 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

It makes sense that the “gun grabbers” are being influenced by the election cycle, since they are clearly hoping the dems will win and advance their gun-control agenda.

But that does not explain why there has been a jump in these shootings, not to mention somewhat of an increase in crime in general. According to police friends, the crime increase can be attributed in part to an increase in gang violence. This problem is ignored by the media because it would force them to discuss either black or (illegal-immigrant) Hispanic gangs such as MS13, and the media don’t want to go there. (There are of course a few white gangs as well, but these are not the main source of the problems).

I wonder if there is a more subtle effect here. My wife, who works in a Latin American country, noted that in the run-up to, and after the election of, a leftist president, the crime rate spiraled up. She thought part of the reason was that the politicians were engaged in a game of heightened expectations, and some of the citizenry were “upset” when the discussions before the elections (not to mention the fact that the politicians could not deliver on their promises afterward) did not lead to any improvement in their situation. I suppose people who are engaged in “social justice” issues, such as the fellow at NIU, and who may already be not totally mentally healthy, might not react well to these “social tensions”.


33 posted on 02/19/2008 12:42:05 PM PST by Sigurdrifta
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To: Esther Ruth

Pity not everyone thinks so, one day they will, either happily or otherwise.


34 posted on 02/19/2008 12:42:36 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Sigurdrifta
It makes sense that the “gun grabbers” are being influenced by the election cycle, since they are clearly hoping the dems will win and advance their gun-control agenda.

With the current GOP front-runner, I think the grabbers are all dancing in the streets.

35 posted on 02/19/2008 12:45:11 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Morgana
Would wanting this as a tattoo make me weird?
36 posted on 02/19/2008 12:48:16 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Esther Ruth

This dude was a fruitcake from the beginning.


37 posted on 02/19/2008 12:48:23 PM PST by alarm rider ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -)
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To: Morgana

No, they don’t.


38 posted on 02/19/2008 12:50:19 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: alarm rider
The horse pulling this murderer’s buggy was Satan. It was not the drugs first. It was his free will choice to open his life up to the devil. His parents threw drugs at the spiritual problem since they were unbelievers probably themselves and did not take what he was doing seriously.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/798150,021708niu.article

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Peter Rachowsky, 27, a former Elk Grove Village resident, described Kazmierczak as “pretty much my first and only friend” during junior high and their first two years of high school.

==>> Around their junior year, he said, Kazmierczak began exploring satanism and white-power movements, leading Kazmierczak’s parents to take him to specialists who put him on drugs that caused his weight to fluctuate greatly.

“He started to identify more with hatred-type stuff,” Rachowsky recalled. “It seemed like the medicine made the whole situation worse.”

39 posted on 02/19/2008 1:16:39 PM PST by Esther Ruth ( J E S U S C H R I S T IS LORD !!)
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To: Sigurdrifta

Nice analysis and I thank you for it.


40 posted on 02/19/2008 5:13:08 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Refusing to calm down since the Waco massacre.)
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