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Can Obama be Beaten?
Flopping Ace's ^ | Feb. 17, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 02/17/2008 4:57:03 PM PST by jdm

How do you overcome an emotional phenomenon with rationality?


By now most of us have seen the news stories describing the Cult of Obama, or Obamania. People cry when he speaks. Despite holding signs that say “Stand for Change” his speeches are interrupted by women fainting and falling to the ground. (Wordsmith has photos and video).

Hillary Clinton, the once annointed Queen of the Democrat Party has done everything in her power to overcome that flood of raw emotion and remind people that it takes a President, not a good speechmaker, to get the job done.

Hillary: Talk is Cheap

Warren, Ohio
MSNBC
Feb. 14, 2008

“Over the years you’ve heard plenty of promises from plenty of people in plenty of speeches and some of those speeches were probably pretty good, but speeches don’t put food on the table. Speeches don’t fill up your tank. Speeches don’t fill your prescriptions or do anything about that stack of bills that keeps you up at night. That’s the difference between me and my Democratic opponent: my opponent makes speeches. I offer solutions,” she said to applause. “It is one thing to get people excited. I want to empower you. This is not about me. This is about you.”

There’s a big difference between us: Speeches versus solutions, talk versus action. You know, some people may think words are change, but you and I know better. Words are cheap.”

If Hillary’s desperate appeal for substance over style fails, what makes people think that a 71 year old Republican, even a maverick like John McCain, can bring this Obamaphoria down to earth?

It’s true that McCain will draw a starker contrast ideologically between himself and Obama in a way that Hillary Clinton cannot. Both Hillary and Obama basically agree that the answer to America’s problems is to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs and give poor people their last good meal. But McCain has also said that greedy Wall Street types should be “punished.”

McCain will contrast his national security policy and experience with Obama who feels we should talk to our enemies and invade our friends. But will that be enough to overcome the flood of millions of new voters who don’t seem to care about anything except the fact that they get emotional and tend to keel over when Obama speaks?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 02/17/2008 4:57:04 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm
Can Obama be Beaten?

Yes, but NOT by McCain.

2 posted on 02/17/2008 4:59:09 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: jdm

Every long stovepipe has at least one elbow in it.


3 posted on 02/17/2008 4:59:41 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (Bill Clinton: Life Member of the Liars' Club.)
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To: jdm
The Obamagasm can't run all the way to November (can it?) At some point, their will have to be an entree to go with the garnish (mustn't there?)

Most election years, the number of primary votes that Hillary has been getting would be more than enough to get her the nomination. But the Obama crowd is turning out in such large numbers that she is lagging. Still, it is hard for me to picture their enthusiasm continuing at such high levels for another nine months, without any more substance than has been offered from Mr. Obama. Or are that many voters that superficial and shallow? I sincerely hope not.

4 posted on 02/17/2008 5:00:48 PM PST by squidly
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To: jdm
Can Obama be Beaten?

That headline is asking for some racist joke.

5 posted on 02/17/2008 5:01:36 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: jdm

All we have to do is continue the attack adds that Hitlery will start in the next couple of weeks.


6 posted on 02/17/2008 5:05:55 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: wagglebee; jdm
"Yes, but NOT by McCain."

That is the truth.

7 posted on 02/17/2008 5:07:44 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't do anything you wouldn't want to explain to the paramedics!)
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To: jdm

8 posted on 02/17/2008 5:07:53 PM PST by gpapa (Kill the terrorists, protect the borders, punch the hippies)
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To: Always Right
That headline is asking for some racist joke.

I thought it was a gay joke.

9 posted on 02/17/2008 5:08:40 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: wagglebee
Actually, McCain is the exact candidate to bury Barry, if circumstances line up before November. Terrorists want and need a strong American President who will react to their murdering else they have no recruiting mechanism for a war against the West because the West would be feminized under a liberal hack like Obama. He is a liberal weakling with so little experience that even those he would pick to run things would be impotent against terrorism. Look for the terrorists to do something heinous between now and the fall in order to marginalize Obama and vault McCain to the fore as the 'strong against terrorism' candidate.

One other note: even Barry would have to act decisively against terrorism should it hit us in the continental 48 again, so the realities are what terrorists try to avoid the American voter comprehending.

10 posted on 02/17/2008 5:09:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: squidly

Big problem is McCain will not inspire a big base turn out . Unless we have a terrorist attack or something big foreign policy wise. Obama can be beat it will just take a lot of help.

Hillary would be easier to beat , I think. But seeing her lose to the O man would be so sweet .

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11 posted on 02/17/2008 5:09:48 PM PST by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: wagglebee

“Yes, but not by McCain.”

The truth hurts, but it’s the truth.


12 posted on 02/17/2008 5:10:29 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: ARE SOLE

good thing it wasn’t ‘can he be whipped?’


13 posted on 02/17/2008 5:10:31 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: MHGinTN

You might have a point.


14 posted on 02/17/2008 5:11:01 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ARE SOLE

Yeah, maybe an S&M joke would work.


15 posted on 02/17/2008 5:14:35 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: jdm

Ask Larry Sinclair. Apparently, yes.


16 posted on 02/17/2008 5:17:07 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: jdm
Can Obama be Beaten?

Considering the options, I'm having trouble caring.

Any chance of a military coupe?

Complete societal breakdown could be entertaining too. At least it always is in the movies. I could band with my neighbors and go kick the crap out of the town to the west. Those guys are pussies, but I covet their women, power tools and flour.

17 posted on 02/17/2008 5:17:33 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Deetes
Hillary would be easier to beat , I think. But seeing her lose to the O man would be so sweet.

I'd prefer seeing her lose to McCain, which I'm pretty sure would happen if they were the final 2. I believe she'd cause the big turnout of the conservative base, no matter how many of them now say they wouldn't, who have a lot more hatred of her than they have of Obama.

18 posted on 02/17/2008 5:26:56 PM PST by squidly
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To: wagglebee

By Rudy! Brokered convention for Rudy!


19 posted on 02/17/2008 5:30:01 PM PST by College Repub (http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/)
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To: jdm

Of course Obama can be beaten, there has never been an invincible candidate and never will be.

Obama’s (and the entire Democrat Party’s) weakness is the issues.

If I were advising Mr. McCain, that’s got to be his key to winning. If he sticks to the high road, and is perfectly frank about what he intends to do, what he would like to do, and what he thinks he will accomplish, all of Mr. Obama’s platitudes aren’t going carry the day. But it got to be straight talking, if McCain tries to pander, tries to label his policies as “conservative” when they ain’t, he’ll turn off the people and lose for certain.


20 posted on 02/17/2008 5:30:40 PM PST by I_Like_Spam
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