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The Problems with Obama [Victor Davis Hanson]
NRO ^ | 2/15/2008 | VDH

Posted on 02/15/2008 1:23:35 PM PST by Uncledave

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1 posted on 02/15/2008 1:23:37 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave

Obama would probably be a disaster as President; I’m still not voting for McCain.


2 posted on 02/15/2008 1:25:48 PM PST by kjo
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To: Uncledave
Going to do a little research when I get home so I can back this up, or if one of you do so before be by all means do so. Michael Medved has been talking about phony staged events at Obama rallies to make him look good.

Staged Incident - Obama speaking - woman near the front roll faints, Obama throws to someone next to her a water bottle and says some comments comments about his concern for her. Sounds nice - but this has happened at at least 4 speaking engagement including here in Seattle.

Google: woman faints at obama rally or Obama water bottle.

3 posted on 02/15/2008 1:35:54 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: kjo

I agreed with most of the article until I read, “McCain gets it, the others don’t.” I couldn’t disagree more. None of them get it. For me, this election will come down to voting against one of the candidates, rather than voting for one of them.


4 posted on 02/15/2008 1:36:59 PM PST by VA_Gentleman (Doing my part to prove that global warming is a hoax.)
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To: Uncledave; Tolik

bump & a ping


5 posted on 02/15/2008 1:37:57 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: Uncledave
Obama is a complete train wreck. His idea of America is nothing short of a socialist state designed to eradicate the USA as we know it. He has no allegiance to this country and seem unlikely to be interested in preserving the fundamentals of the founding fathers.

I am not a mccain supporter and frankly do not see any of the three candidates as being good for the country....

6 posted on 02/15/2008 1:39:38 PM PST by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: NavyCanDo

CNN staging plants from the Hillary campaign.

Hussien’s people using phony fainters, making women swoon.

Bogus debates by YouTube and the MSM.

They know they can get away with it, and we can’t stop them.


7 posted on 02/15/2008 1:43:36 PM PST by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: kjo

Then you are voting for Obama.


8 posted on 02/15/2008 1:44:18 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualProsperity
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To: The Forgotten Man
I would not say that McCain vs Obama is a welcome choice, but it is an easy one. McCain gets my vote.
9 posted on 02/15/2008 1:44:30 PM PST by alecqss
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To: LowTaxesEqualProsperity

No, I am voting third party.


10 posted on 02/15/2008 1:46:53 PM PST by kjo
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To: kjo

So are we.

KV (adult son) says he would NEVER vote (D).

We still have our primary vote coming in May and will vote (R).

I know some here suggest voting (D) in the primary to help Clinton.

I can’t explain why but I am not comfortable changing tickets to help the lesser of the two horrible choices.


11 posted on 02/15/2008 1:49:10 PM PST by Global2010 (Election 2008 like playin Shoots and Ladders (ages 5 and up))
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To: Uncledave
If the establishment Pubbies think McCain can beat Obama they are in for the shock of their lives.

The polls show Obama up by seven or eight. After months of media bias it could be seventeen or eighteen.

McCain will be an unbelievably bad candidate--and he will crack under media pressure and start flip-flopping on a wide range of issues to try to placate them. McCain has had a free ride for many years--he is not prepared for what is about to happen to him.

Obama will be able to shout "change" and "hope" all the way to the White House. By the time the weaklings at the RNC start to attack it will be far too little and too late.
12 posted on 02/15/2008 1:52:09 PM PST by cgbg (That heat you feel is not global warming. It is the wicked witch melting melting.)
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To: Uncledave

“Putin’s comment that Hillary didn’t have a head...”

Hmm, wow I find myself agreeing with Putin.


13 posted on 02/15/2008 1:52:46 PM PST by Siberian-psycho (An oppressed class which did not try to possess arms, would deserve to be treated as slaves." Lenin)
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To: NavyCanDo
The "fainting" routine happened at Obama's Hartford CT rally as well.

It probably is staged imho.


14 posted on 02/15/2008 1:53:44 PM PST by cgbg (That heat you feel is not global warming. It is the wicked witch melting melting.)
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To: alecqss

I wouldn’t vote for Obama for dog catcher, well maybe, but for President, no friggin way! Holding my nose with McCain.


15 posted on 02/15/2008 2:13:14 PM PST by debboo (Stop socialism, vote conservative)
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To: Uncledave
"Since the agendas and past voting records of Obama and Clinton are nearly identical"

Some freepers would disagree with this statement. But Hanson is a decent journalist/analyst.

Still, McCain is the least bad of the three, and if he is running against Clinton, he has a greater chance (though that depends on how long Obama can run on charisma and not get into the details and specifics of how he intends to bring about change).

16 posted on 02/15/2008 2:21:46 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Probably for the entire election. Kerry did that last time. “I have plans, and I’ll tell you what they are after I’m elected.” Look how close he came to winning.


17 posted on 02/15/2008 2:23:51 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: LowTaxesEqualProsperity; kjo; Global2010
Depending on where you live, voting for McCain or a conservative is irrelevant.

kjo doesn't have a state listed on kjo's FRhomepage, but personally a Californian. All Californians' votes will probably be for the Democratic candidate, and the electoral votes will be for that candidate. So personally have the freedom to vote for candidates who almost definitely will not win. Global2010, being an Oregonian, guessing that the same applies.

Stinks if you live in a 'swing' state. Then you actually could affect the outcome of who is the next President. And of the three, you probably should vote McCain. (general election; not primaries/caucuses/conventions/etc.).

18 posted on 02/15/2008 2:30:08 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: VA_Gentleman

“...this election will come down to voting against one of the candidates, rather than voting for one of them.

I’m afraid that’s going to be true of a lot of us.


19 posted on 02/15/2008 2:41:55 PM PST by IM2MAD
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To: Uncledave
Barry will bring out the "McCain Democrats" in spades.

That Marxist won't hunt.

20 posted on 02/15/2008 2:44:48 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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