Posted on 02/15/2008 1:13:03 PM PST by red flanker
Go, Hillary!
That’s my battle cry.
Hillary Clinton needs to hit our Texas primary hard on March 4 — or kiss her campaign for the presidency goodbye. Barack Obama has taken the delegate lead, with some big states still ahead for forthcoming primaries.
At this point, the polling experts — who are starting to look like polling amateurs — expect Hillary to take Texas. If so, she will follow other women who have gained crucial political momentum in Texas, such as Ann Richards in recent times and Miriam “Ma” Ferguson in the 1920s.
And on the GOP side, the state has been charmed for years by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison and Rep. Kay Granger. And of course, Dallas has had two women in the mayor’s office during the last couple of decades, Annette Strauss and Laura Miller.
Texans love their women politicians.
(Excerpt) Read more at fwbusinesspress.com ...
If Hell-are-we is the nominee, there is very good certainty that Baroque Enigma will be the VP (and thus gain executive experience). You have potentially 16 YEARS of corruption and attacks on every perceived obstacle to their hold on power. Think of Janet Reno II, Supreme Court Justices Ginsburgs II, III and IV. FBI and IRS files in the hand of political cronies Flintstone, a military that would be forced to ultra political correctness, etc. Sixteen years of Hell.
By contrast, if Baroque is the nominee there is very good certainty that he would not accept anyone as toxic as Hell-are-we as VP. The selection would invigorate the conservatives/independants and Baroque also keeps in mind that VP Hell-are-we could always arrange an "accidental poisoning" or "blunt force UFO ashtray head injury" that would allow her to assume the presidency (and pardon the murderer/conspirators).
By voting for Baroque in every primary, conservatives/independents can at least send Hell-are-we back to Hell and have McCain/Portman/Allen/Watts/Pence take on a neophyte and make it a competitive campaign. At worst, Baroque is a one termer and will lead to a rebirth of Reaganism.
I disagree. The last thing the country seems to want is an establishment candidate, and nothing screams establishment more than McCain and Clinton. Obama has no real message except all out socialism, and in reality is just another puppet, but he’s a fresh charismatic face. Obama vs. McCain, which Iraq still looming over his head, would be like seeing what would’ve happened had RFK taken on Nixon in ‘68.
There is no way that Barack Obama is going to be Hillary’s VP. Even if he loses the nomination, he is young and he will be back. He does not want to get saddled with Clinton baggage.
Furthermore, after having served as VP to Clinton, he would never be able to claim to be an agent of change again.
Also, the Clintons would not trust such an ambitious young man to be loyal.
BTTT
And Hillary isn’t going to want to be Obama’s running mate, even if he wanted her, which he won’t. The Clintons would make a show of supporting him, then try to sabotage him surreptitiously to set up a 2012 run.
Good analysis.
1. The super delegates would make it conditional that Hell-are-we take Baroque as VP.
2. Hell-are-we would realize she would probably lose without Baroque as VP.
People with much more experience in politics than either of us have examined this from every angle, and the broad consensus is that Barack will NEVER be the VP on a Hillary ticket. He has nothing to gain and much to lose from being too closely associated with the Clintons. And after serving as VP the excitement of voting for the first black will have dissipated, and people will actually look at his policies and proposals, insuring a quick defeat. He would be smarter to run for Illinois governor, then come back and run for president.
You are forgetting the Barack Obama has some say-so in the matter.
There is no way Barack Obama wants to be Hillary’s VP.
I think if Hillary gets the nomination, she'll try to pick someone who might help disguise her unfitness to be commander in chief, someone like Jim Webb or Jack Reed.
I think this is a now-or-never election for Hillary--in 2012 she'll have just turned 65 by election day. It's obvious a lot of people in the Democratic Party don't find her likeable, and if Obama is the nominee in 2008 and fails, there may be someone else in 2012 who can beat Hillary for the nomination. Besides, her Senate seat would be up.
“”There is no way that Barack Obama is going to be Hillary’s VP. Even if he loses the nomination, he is young and he will be back. He does not want to get saddled with Clinton baggage.””
Exactly correct!!! Ther is no way that he wants to associate him self with the Clintons because he knows there will be scandals if Hillary is the POTUS. He’s young and would be wise to wait it out instead of having his reputation dragged through the mud as Hillary’s VP.
If all else fails, The Evil One will look at Obama and see RFK. He better get extra security.
Boma does not have a message but he has the support and needs to NOT be the challenger vs McCain.
Hitler is much easier to beat.
http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm
Obama is far more a Marxist than Hitlery. We can’t
afford to take a chance.
All three would be absolutely brutal for the republic. I just hope whoever wins the White House, the opposite party takes Congress. At least we’ll have some gridlock which would slow both down.
So you hope the Democrats keep power no matter who wins?
Joking aside, that just doesn't work. First, McCain is seriously wrong on a some key domestic issues, but still right on most of them. Those that he is wrong with are ones the Democrats will support him on (immigration, carbon taxes, etc,). I'm not sure how much a Pub majority would help, as there would be enough willing to be "bipartisan" and support him along with the Dems. But if there is a big enough majority in the House they might stand up to him the way they did to Bush on immigration. That's our best hope.
On foreign and military issues though, there is no comparison between McCain and either Hillary or Obama. I don't think anyone seriously questions McCain's commitment to the military and the security of the USA. In fact, I have reluctantly decided to vote for McCain if for no other reason than that the people who sacrifice so much in military service deserve a better Commander in Cheif than Hillary or Obama.
Should have read “So you hope the Republicans take power no matter who wins?”. Kind of spoiled my own joke.
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