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To: Little Ray

>>If I had my way, McCain and all the “anti-torture” types would be strapped into “The Comfy Chair”, their head’s restrained so they couldn’t look way from the screen, and their eyelids glued open so they couldn’t close ‘em, then they would be forced to watch the Islamic “best of” videos of beheadings, burnings, bombings, torture and general mayhem for 24 hours straight.

I bet we can make them see that the people we’re fighting are worse than beasts, and that the worst we can do them is far less than what they deserve.<<

There I do disagree with you.

The Japanese and the Nazis were horrifically evil and inhuman too.

We were able to preserve our character and constitution in the face of fighting those enemies as well the Soviets.

When we have resorted to tactics that are not worthy of America we have inevitably come to regret it.


69 posted on 02/15/2008 8:33:47 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: gondramB
There I do disagree with you.

The Japanese and the Nazis were horrifically evil and inhuman too.

We were able to preserve our character and constitution in the face of fighting those enemies as well the Soviets.

When we have resorted to tactics that are not worthy of America we have inevitably come to regret it.

I agree. We should always be above the horrific, inhuman evil actions that others engage in, and I thought we always were. That's why I don't understand this recent advocating of torture. I believe it's wrong when anyone does it.

76 posted on 02/15/2008 11:55:31 PM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVodI85NLMQ)
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To: gondramB

The Nazis and Nips had nations and infrastructures we could attack - and did. We bombed hell out them without an iota of concern for “innocent” civilians caught in the rain of steel.
We waged unrestricted submarine warfare against the Japanese merchant marine viturally wiping it out. When we got in range of the main islands we burned their cities to the ground and finished up with nukes.

We were also reading their mail, so we didn’t need to torture anyone.

Finally, at least with the Germans, we had a mutual agreement with them regarding the treatment of prisoners. Failure to treat enemy prisoners would result in retaliation on our own POWs.

This is NOT the case with Al Qaeda; we don’t have these options. Al Qaeda consists bandits and pirates - they enemies of all mankind. Any soldier who falls into their hands will be beheaded or worse.

We need to know where they are, what they have, and what they are planning, and if torture works, we should use it - gleefully.
Finally, we need to raise the cost of being a jihadi so high that a father will kill his own son rather than risk him bringing down the wrath of the Americans on him and his family.


79 posted on 02/19/2008 5:47:56 AM PST by Little Ray (So its McCain or Huckabee? Pass me the bloody KoolAid.)
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