Sheriffs don't want to give up control of concealed gun permits

Radio Iowa ^ | 2/14/08 | Darwin Danielson

[driftdiver]

So there is no conviction but he wants to punish anyway, great legal scholar he is.

[TChris]

He said if he knows someone in his community has assaulted his wife but never been convicted, he wants to be able to deny a permit.

I always love the LEO "I know" reasoning.

"Forget about all that evidence, fair trial and jury crap! I know you did it. You're guilty!"

LEOs like that should make everybody very nervous.

I know an ex-LEO who once said, seriously, "We don't arrest innocent people!"

[Resolute Conservative]

Sheriffs can be bought and most if not all grant favors to supporters and family members. Nobody should have control over who carries outside that of convicted felons, that is what my constitution says.

I rally want someone to take it to court that they were arrested for carrying and settle this once and for all so we can either carry or revolt.

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

Right you are, Sheriff. Here, in Minnesota, it has been one, long, wild-west shootout since 2003.

[Puppage]

Right you are, Sheriff. Here, in Minnesota, it has been one, long, wild-west shootout since 2003.

Same in Connecticut.

A river of blood, I tell ya.

[Resolute Conservative]

I was an LEO and not all if us had that mentality it was usually the ones who will make upper echelon staff or chief one day. You, know the Peter principle. Most every line officer I worked with expected citizens to carry and inferred as such with out getting in trouble.

[JamesP81]

Dubuque county Sheriff Kenneth Runde said that won't work. He said if he knows someone in his community has assaulted his wife but never been convicted, he wants to be able to deny a permit.

Nothing like a local sheriff who'd like to judge, jury, and executioner as well as sheriff.

[JamesP81]

I was an LEO and not all if us had that mentality it was usually the ones who will make upper echelon staff or chief one day.

Pencil pushers and career politicians.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

“And we’re going to give people like that permits to carry? That’s not gonna happen, and I won’t give ‘em to those people. Just because they didn’t get convicted ‘cause their wives wouldn’t testify, doesn’t give them a right to carry a gun that they may end up using in a domestic violence situation.”

Lord knows these men that want to kill their wives will not break any laws and illegally carry or possibly shoot them in the home. Denying them a CCW is definitely going to stop them from killing their wives... </sarcasm>

[Sir Gawain]

Runde says:"And we're going to give people like that permits to carry? That's not gonna happen, and I won't give 'em to those people. Just because they didn't get convicted 'cause their wives wouldn't testify, doesn't give them a right to carry a gun that they may end up using in a domestic violence situation."

They wouldn't go get a permit for the murder weapon, you moron.

[WOBBLY BOB]

I run from tree to tree when in the park,just to avoid those wacky permit holders getting me.

Sometimes I even borrow a metrocrat’s Kevlar so I can be safe at gun shows.(sarc)

[Digital Sniper]

Right you are, Sheriff. Here, in Minnesota, it has been one, long, wild-west shootout since 2003.

Same in Connecticut.

Likewise for Arizona, with our shall-issue CCW and open carry.

[Rick.Donaldson]

Well... technically, the highest law official in a state, is the county sheriff. Well, sure there’s AGs, and the Governor... things like that, but most of the time the county sheriff can trump the “bigger boys” on a local level.

In our state they went through this, and set the laws so they are the “same” throughout all the counties. Sheriffs retained the right to deny a license for a REASONABLE cause. But, those causes are mandated by state law. So, you can’t just deny one based on a personal issue with an individual, cuz say, you don’t like him.

So, the Iowa sheriff won’t be in office much longer if he tries to fight the state. The people will boot him, or the governor should be able to just tell him where to get off.

[WOBBLY BOB]

I love the LEO attitude of we’re all just felons waiting to happen. You know, guilty till proven innocent.

These local yocal tyrants need to be taken down a peg.

I think they could use improvement on policing their own.

http://www.wisn.com/news/15249053/detail.html

http://www.wisn.com/news/15249053/detail.html

[Iron Munro]

Any legitimate reason to refuse a concealed carry permit can be defined.

The decision process should be objective and unbiased.

If there is no definable, legitimate, reason to refuse a person the legal right to excercise their 2nd ammendment rights should we leave it up to the subjective feelings of a government employee?

People cannot be refused fair and equal treatment in other areas subject to government control, why is this any different?

Should people be refused the right to vote because a government employee has a suspicion they aren’t suitable or qualified?
What about school enrollment, tuition assistance, library cards, passports, marriage licenses?

What about drivers licenses?
Proportionally, many more people are killed by drivers and their motor vehicles than are killed by people with concealed carry permits.

[Leisler]

I’ll take every felon having guns over the state have a say.

Everyone has the right, at all times.

The 2nd isn’t about crime or hunting.

[ConservaTexan]

...a bill they say would make it harder for them to deny permits to carry concealed weapons.

Their true motivations are coming to light. They want do deny the permits and are forlorn when they can't.

[weegee]

Overwhelming it is the attitude I have seen.

Heard the new word is “turds” not even “perps” when they have a suspect.