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1 posted on 02/15/2008 7:05:03 AM PST by radar101
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Past due time for a Potomac Tea Party...


52 posted on 02/15/2008 1:11:40 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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58 posted on 02/15/2008 8:05:12 PM PST by murphE (I refuse to choose evil, even if it is the lesser of two.)
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Does anyone know how Bud Cramer (demonrat - Alabama) voted?

He is a cowardly POS so it wouldn’t surprise me if he voted in favor of it.

It’s sad but amazing. Things really haven’t changed in thousands of years. We are simply going back to the times of slaves/peasants (the vast majority of us) and kings/rulers (global elitists).

Having been a Christian for just under a year I’ve come to believe that we ARE in the end times.


71 posted on 02/17/2008 3:12:06 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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Doesn’t matter that it has been a two party effort, once the sleeping frog passes out, the flame can be turned to “high”.

I had hoped I would be dead with no grandchildren before this went down. Well, my son is still single...


72 posted on 02/18/2008 9:21:07 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (If "there are no losers here," then there are no winners here. ><BCC>NRA)
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Does anyone know how Bud Cramer - Demonrat of Alabama - voted on this? Thx!


73 posted on 02/24/2008 4:09:49 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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It’s upsetting to see such hysterical rhetoric flying around about this bill, because none of it is true. Cliff Kincaid is a propagandist of the first order. I worked on this bill, and its purpose is nothing like what’s being represented by Rush, by Mr. Beck. I don’t fault anyone here for being upset, given that rhetoric, but the good thing is it’s not true. Cases in point:

1. The bill does not have anything to do with levying a “global tax.” There’s no funding attached to the bill, and even if it did commit the US to putting up 0.7% of GDP (which it doesn’t), it has no bearing on taxation in any way.

2. Nor does it require that any US development assistance be channeled through the UN. The bill does not require or otherwise put pressure on the US to provide a single cent to the UN. Not one cent. Kincaid knows this, too, I’m positive of it.

3. The bill does NOT tie the US to any of the other treaties or UN declarations like Kincaid and Beck have said. And on that note, the “banning of guns and small firearms” or whatever, like Kincaid and Beck are also saying this bill would require, is not even in the UN declaration that they say the bill commits us to (which it doesn’t in fact commit us to anyway). They’ve made this up out of whole cloth, and I blame Kincaid for being dishonest and Beck and Rush for shoddy research. That UN declaration refers only to curbing the ILLEGAL (”illicit”) sale and trade of small arms. In other words, black market gun running. It has nothing to do with US gun laws and does not impact the 2nd amendment in any way whatsoever. I’ve seen Kincaid quote from that declaration, and the quote is doctored. It doesn’t exist.

4. In mentioning the millennium development goals, all it does is legislate that working toward those goals (it doesn’t set targets for how far we should go toward reaching them) will become an official focus of US foreign aid. The goals include basic challenges in economic development: reducing by the numbers of people living on less than $1 per day, working toward all kids having the opportunity to go to school (in the middle east, there are places where US-funded schools provide the only alternate to radical maddrassas—still don’t think it’s a worthwhile investment?), halting and reversing HIV, TB, malaria; reducing the numbers of kids under 5 who die, which can be done for cents per child. President Bush has committed to these goals, and the US is already funding efforts toward these ends—this bill just backs those efforts up by increasing their profile within the range of development issues we already work on. If you don’t think that addressing health, early childhood death, pandemic disease, eduction, is a part of spreading democracy or has anything to do with national security, you should read President Bush’s National Security Strategy because it’s the third “D” - Defense, Diplomacy, Development. This bill just helps US development assistance focus on the most effective (and cost-effective) fundamentals of economic development—the equivalent of reading, writing and arithmetic. Moreover, the point of requiring a strategy and having reporting requirements is to ensure that the money is having the intended impact.

5. The reason the bill has been just going through Congress without much fanfare is not because of some secret conspiracy or deviousness—it was just moving through because it’s just not that weighty of a bill. All of the hype it’s been getting lately is just scaremongering bordering on hysteria. I’m a policy analyst who works on very niche legislation, which very rarely is high profile enough to make the news (mostly laws that relate to the intersection of global health and national security), and just among those bills, this one is toward the bottom in terms of the profile it should receive.

I doubt many reading this will believe me over Rush, Kincaid or Glenn Beck, and I’m sure I’ll incur some wrath, but it’s the truth.


74 posted on 02/25/2008 9:11:04 PM PST by RedWhitetAndBlue
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bttt


75 posted on 06/24/2008 6:30:45 AM PDT by JavaJumpy (Let's have a whinefest, shall we? Mark Levin)
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