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'Terror plot to kill 1000'
Herald Sun ^ | February 13, 2008 | Norrie Ross

Posted on 02/13/2008 6:50:53 PM PST by george76

THE leader of an alleged home-grown Muslim terrorist group talked of an attack that would kill 1000 people, a Melbourne terror trial heard today.

Abdul Nacer Benbrika, 47, said that in order to make the Government withdraw Australian troops from Iraq a large-scale operation was needed.

"To cause maximum damage. To cause the death of a thousand.... by use of a bomb."

The group of Melbourne men bent on violent Jihad planned terrorist attacks on football games or train stations to maximise deaths, the jury was told.

And the director and leader of the alleged terrorist group in Melbourne gave them permission to kill women, children and the elderly...

The prosecutor said that according to Mr Benbrika Australia was a country at war and used the term 'Kuffur' to describe infidels who did not believe in violent Jihad.

Mr Maidment said that Mr Benbrika believed that it was permissable in pursuit of violent Jihad to kill and steal from the Kuffur.

"Their blood and money is fair game," ...

In his opening of the Crown case against 12 men accused of a number of terrorist offences, Mr Maidment said the group was prepared to launch an attack overseas but Australia was the preferred target.

'Kuffar'

He said that the group's leader, Abdul Nacer Benbrika, who was also known as Sheik Abu Bakr, used the term Kuffar to describe infidels who did not believe in Allah or subscribe to violent Jihad.

According to Mr Benbrika the term 'Jihad' had only one meaning in the Koran and that was fighting the Kuffar.

Mr Maidment said that in a secretly taped conversation another accused, Abdullah Merhi, asked Mr Benbrika if killing their intended victims would be pleasing to Allah.

Mr Benbrika replied:"You are pleasing the Almighty".

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allah; islam; islamophobia; jidad; jihad; jihadinaustralia; kafir; kuffar; kuffur; muslim; terror; terrorism; terrorists; waronterror; wot
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The trial is now starting.
1 posted on 02/13/2008 6:50:59 PM PST by george76
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To: forkinsocket; Fred Nerks

Kuffar or ‘Kuffur’ ?


2 posted on 02/13/2008 6:52:26 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

they’ll probably get off with short jail terms, unfortunately.


3 posted on 02/13/2008 6:56:53 PM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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To: fanfan; Fair Go; SunkenCiv; Candor7; Beckwith; jan in Colorado; Chgogal; brityank; Marine_Uncle; ...

it was permissable in pursuit of violent Jihad to kill and steal from the Kuffur.


4 posted on 02/13/2008 6:57:07 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; Ezekiel; Billthedrill; AnAmericanMother; aculeus
Kuffar or ‘Kuffur’ ?

If I get your drift, transliteration is a tricky business, for example the thousand-and-one names of Libya’s fashion plate.

5 posted on 02/13/2008 7:05:57 PM PST by dighton
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To: george76

Reading the entire article, these guys appear, in mental/psychological terms, to have the mindset of teenage boys — just evil teenage thugs with nitrates and bomb making knowledge and the ability to quite the koran. Chest-thumping and bragadoccio included.


6 posted on 02/13/2008 7:12:13 PM PST by bajabaja
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To: george76
Kuffar كفّار plural, Kafir كافر singular. There are 3 different kinds of kuffar according to Shar'iyyah, harbi, musta'min, & dhimmi, for those who are curious.
7 posted on 02/13/2008 7:15:13 PM PST by forkinsocket
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For those who have not heard of or read Stephen Coughlin’s thesis on the Koran and Jihad, here it is. It is a fascinating read (300+pages, but well worth the effort).

http://www.strategycenter.net/docLib/20080107_Coughlin_ExtremistJihad.pdf

“Their blood and money is fair game,” ...

8 posted on 02/13/2008 7:16:14 PM PST by Chgogal (When you vote Democrat, you vote Al Qaeda! Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother was agent to Moore's F9/11.)
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To: forkinsocket

thanks


9 posted on 02/13/2008 7:17:56 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: dighton; george76; Ezekiel; Billthedrill; aculeus
The ultimate discussion of the proper way to spell the name of the "Guide of the First of September Great Revolution of the Arab Libyan Popular and Socialist Jamahirya."

Thanx and a hat tip to Cecil Adams of The Straight Dope.

10 posted on 02/13/2008 7:18:16 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: forkinsocket
....OK, I’m impressed. ; )
11 posted on 02/13/2008 7:18:38 PM PST by Chgogal (When you vote Democrat, you vote Al Qaeda! Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother was agent to Moore's F9/11.)
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To: george76

HOpe its not a liberal judge who will claim they are victims of islamophobia and set them free.


12 posted on 02/13/2008 7:20:52 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: forkinsocket

Is it true that Arabic is one of the hardest languages for an English-speaker to learn? I assume that it is! Not only because of the different script, but it seems grammatically complicated as well.


13 posted on 02/13/2008 7:24:26 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: dighton

Very hard to transliterate these alphabets. If you ask me, I’d transliterate his name Gadhdhafiy because when Libyans pronounce the Qaf (first letter), it sounds kind of like a G. If he were different nationality, I’d do it differently.

Confusing, eh?


14 posted on 02/13/2008 7:25:50 PM PST by forkinsocket
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Confusing until it’s settled

(thank you AAM!)

as Duckbreath.

15 posted on 02/13/2008 7:32:18 PM PST by dighton
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To: Chgogal; puroresu
....OK, I’m impressed. ; )

Thanks, but I'm Middle Eastern, so no reason to impressed ;)

Is it true that Arabic is one of the hardest languages for an English-speaker to learn?

Hard to say for me. I do think it's more complicated than Russian & Spanish, for example. On the other hand, once you learn the root system of Semitic languages, it becomes easy to make new words. Also, it seems like many translation schools in America teach students classical Arabic, which few Arabs will be able to understand.

For me, English is very hard because of the strange spellings & the way that words never sound the way they are written. It breaks my head.

16 posted on 02/13/2008 7:33:22 PM PST by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket
“It breaks my head.” LOL, yup - not an American idiom. (It drives me nuts.)

Lebanon? Jordan? Kuwait? Can you give us a clue? And are you there now?

17 posted on 02/13/2008 7:40:51 PM PST by Chgogal (When you vote Democrat, you vote Al Qaeda! Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother was agent to Moore's F9/11.)
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To: forkinsocket

What is your native language, if I may ask? Your English seems perfect. I doubt that anyone would ever know that you haven’t spoken it from birth!

When I began learning Japanese, my instructor told me that Arabic, Chinese, and Japanese are the hardest major languages to learn if you are a native English speaker. Of course, many lesser known languages are also difficult. Take a look at Icelandic sometime! :-)


18 posted on 02/13/2008 7:50:10 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Chgogal
I'm an Israeli Mizrahit from Lebanon (complicated!), but also lived in & visited almost all the Arab countries. I'm in America right now.
19 posted on 02/13/2008 7:50:24 PM PST by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket; AnAmericanMother; Billthedrill; aculeus; Ezekiel
For me, English is very hard because of the strange spellings & the way that words never sound the way they are written. It breaks my head.

Agreed. English is notoriously tough.

20 posted on 02/13/2008 7:50:30 PM PST by dighton
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