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To: Rock&RollRepublican
And lastly, without using those two or three 5-second YouTube snippets from 1994, and aside from his 2002 statement to not change abortion laws, do you have any other specifics to back up your claim that Romney was this 'left winger'.... when he ran for Massachusetts governor.

Posted on 11/11/2007 8:26:20 AM EST by Josh Painter

“My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses.” - Source

“In my view, it is not a good idea to go into a [Contract With America] like what was organized by the Republican Party in Washington, laying out a whole series of things which the party said, ‘These are the thing’s we’re going to do.’ I think that’s a mistake.” - Source

“Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” - Source

“I remember in my earliest political experience my father fighting to keep the John Birch Society from playing too strong a role in the Republican Party. He walked out of the Republican National Convention in 1964, when Barry Goldwater said, ‘Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.’ Because he saw that as a tacit approval of the effort the John Birch Society was making to influence the Republican Party. I think that extremists who would force their views on the party and try to shape the party are making a mistake.” - Source

“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts. I support them. I won’t chip away at them. I believe they help protect us and provide for our safety.” - Source

“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.” - Source

“I don’t think [The Brady Bill’s mandated waiting period] will have a massive effect on crime but I think it will have a positive effect.” - Source

“I don’t line up with the NRA.” - Source

“I’ve been a hunter pretty much all my life.” - Source

“I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have, since the time when my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, we should sustain and support it. I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice.” - Source

“I think it would be a positive thing to have women have the choice of taking morning-after pills….I would favor having it available.” - Source

“There will be children born to same-sex couples, and adopted by same-sax couples, and I believe that there should be rights and privileges associated with those unions and with the children that are part of those unions.” - Source

“All people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.” - Source

95 posted on 02/13/2008 10:46:56 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

I said WITHOUT those out-of-context YOuTube videos, several of which you simply quoted.

But I am glad to respond anyway.


The “return to” Reagan Bush comment was in specific reference to a loaded question from a far lefty reporter in which they accused Romney of wanting to run deficit spending with large tax cuts.

The John Birch Society IS a bunch of wacko’s on many issues -— not that Barry Goldwater’s comment at the 64 Convention was wrong.

Why do you think the John Birch Society has largely been deleted from the conservative movement??? Because they went wayyy over the top.

The tough gun laws comment.... what the heck does THAT mean.... that he won’t chip away at them. He doesn’t say he wants MORE restrictions, does he??

And for all those who hate Romney for the LEGISLATURE-crafted assault weapons bill, do you realize the NRA helped Romney CHANGE the bad parts of that legislation and then gave its blessing?????

Solid conservatives come down on both sides of that issue, regardless of how much you disagree with the AWB. The NRA ended up donating to Romney during his campaign and Governorship of Mass.

They also lent him their phone banks and other resources for fundraising .... which indicates THEY did not see Romney as some “gun grabber” or whatever the Romney haters claim.

The “hunter” comment is just sheer juvenile attempt at slamming Romney. I own several guns. And I TOO consider myself to have been a hunter all my life, even though its been decades since me and my cousins went squirrel or rabbit hunting. Sheesh!!

The abortion comment: Romney has publically apologized, just like Ronald Reagan apologized for HIS acceptance of abortion previously. Romney as Governor of Mass went on to pass a number of bills that the National ProLife committee applauded and the pro-abortionists HATED.

And before you mention it, the $50 co-pay for abortions was COURT ORDERED!!!

Furthermore, Romney crafted legislation prohibiting RU-486 from being given to minors, and Romney also crafted legislation which mandated abstinance education in public schools....

The abortionists hated Romney and AGAIN, the ProLife crowd loved him. Romney ended up with an A- and a B+ grading respectively from two different ProLife organizations, one national and one state.

As for the homo adoption comment, Romney was stating a fact, that the LEGISLATURE had legalized homo adoptions...

The last “smoking gun” comment you post is actually the most laughable ... where Romney simply states that everyone should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts.

He did NOT say that homo scout masters should be allowed to fondle kids. He did NOT say homo’s should be hired, or should take little boys on camping trips.

The comment simply meant, as Romney explained later, that the Scouts should not have a litmus test when signing up youngsters or their parents to join the Scouts.

Think about it. What would YOU have the Scouts do?? Put down on the application form.... “Have you ever had a homo thought enter your head? Ever??” or “Is your son a homo? Has your son ever fondled himself?”

And if the 8-year old kid said, yeah, then what.... Prohibit that kid from joining????

YOu Romney haters take all these things sooo out of context its ridiculous.

No on is saying Romney was a super duper rock-ribbed take-no-prisoners conservative while running in Massachusetts. The state is 85% Dem liberal for heavens sake.

He tried to convince voters that he would not be this intolerant bigot, which the Democrats were accusing him and ALL MORMONS of during the entire 1994 and 2002 campaigns.

Men DO change, and Romney certainly has done the honorable thing by moving to the right.

Yet you just hate him that much worst.

If you analyzed every comment made by Fred Thompson ...you would likewise find many troubling things.


96 posted on 02/13/2008 12:53:02 PM PST by Edit35
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To: All

Time for the negativity to stop!
None of the GOP candidates was “perfect”.
McCain has emerged as the last man standing. It’s up to us now to see that he is elected. We can’t give the WH to the dems - no matter what issues you have w/ McCain.

It’s time for all of us to start talking about Mccain’s “positives”. I personally am happy that he is our Republican candidate - moving a little toward the center (for now) is okay because it will allow our party to get more votes & hopefully stay in power. Right now that is the important thing.

We can’t let a dem Prez get to appoint all those SC justices! This election is about so much more than our personal grievances. We must start “accentuating the positives” about our candidate & our party or it looks like we don’t have a consensus - we won’t attract any new voters that way!

It’s all about the numbers, people! And if we keep bad-mouthing our own candidate, no one else will support him either!

Now, get over the fact that Romney, Huckabee, Thompason, Hunter, etc. ain’t gonna be on the ballot this time around. McCain is putting his neck out there & he needs all of our support!

If you can’t get behind McCain, then quit damagng the Republican party & keep your mouth shut! /rant]


97 posted on 02/13/2008 12:59:52 PM PST by mossyoaks (Victory for W!!)
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