[FR Class of 1998]

I wholly disagree. Iraq was a terrorist nation before we invaded, and if it becomes so afterwards, it’s a wash. We give ‘em one warning and nuke the place clean, and that will be that. Same goes for Afghanistan. Such a loss would really be very minor for us if we weren’t there to be the losers.

As for the Islamists, a victory there would be minor for them as well, compared to the victories they are winning every day in Europe (and to some degree Canada and the US). They’re going to get a whole continent, thanks in no small part to us allowing the Europeans to become weak and flaccid in their dependency.

We won. Now let’s bring the boys home and win the war against Mexico where our vital interests really lie.

[NutCrackerBoy]

If the people of Iraq and Afghanistan want to live in a decent country it is on their own shoulders to make it so. -FR Class of 1998

And if they fail after we are gone, Islamists will have won a tremendous victory. This will mark ... the worst outcome in U.S. history. -NutCrackerBoy

I wholly disagree. Iraq was a terrorist nation before we invaded, and if it becomes so afterwards, it’s a wash. We give ‘em one warning and nuke the place clean, and that will be that.

Islamists ... are going to get a whole continent, thanks in no small part to us allowing the Europeans to become weak and flaccid in their dependency. -FR Class of 1998

The part of your rosy future scenario that rests on nuking Iraq and Afghanistan (IF they revert to terrorist states) is null and void because it ain't gonna happen. So consider the scenario in which we nuke not.

Let's start with the obvious. The Islamic demographic takeover of Europe is fatal to all of the West if Islamofascism, WMDs, terror states, and terror networks are all integrated and prevalant.

Sure, Political Correctness in the West seriously hampers stern defensive measures. So? And don't change the subject to illegal immigration.

The demography is what it is. There will be no nuking of Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, or Afghanistan. With no nuking, we have to change, to pacify in effect, the Islamic world, so that when the demographic juggernaut comes to pass, as it will, it will be by a culture that respects or at least fears the rule of law.