To: familyop
"All of the black folks in my area voted for President Bush"And with a black candidate, vs. any white candidate, which way would they be voting?
To: traditional1
..."a black candidate, vs. any white candidate?"
Well, they're older veterans and their families. They'd probably vote for Duncan Hunter, if he were still running. Now, some of them will probably vote against Hillary and the rest for McCain.
There was a little humor in my response, though. This is a remote area. We're all rednecks in a general sense, regardless of color. There are rednecks for Hillary, and there are rednecks against Hillary. Most of the rednecks against Hillary are veterans (probably except one white woman, who was an officer and is also a contractor), lower income men and young people. Most of the rednecks in favor of Hillary here are school teachers, other government employees, lawyers, older woman business managers, drug addicts, and the like.
25 posted on
02/12/2008 8:33:49 PM PST by
familyop
(cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
To: traditional1
Oh...and some white, retired women. They seem to favor Hillary quite a bit.
26 posted on
02/12/2008 8:34:50 PM PST by
familyop
(cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
To: traditional1
My point is that we're not happy with the nominee in our Party, and there's still a lot of time between now and the general election. Matters important to most of us haven't been addressed, yet.
Why Republicans Will Lose in 2008
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1969426/posts
Why Republicans Will Lose in 2008, Part II
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1969429/posts
The most influential constituents wanted to give us the choice between McCain and Hillary. But they're getting what they asked for.
The problem came from the 19th Amendment--not the 15th.
How Dramatically Did Women's Suffrage Change the Size and Scope of Government?
JOHN R. LOTT Jr.
American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (download links for whole document at bottom of page)
September 1998
University of Chicago Law School, John M. Olin Law & Economics Working Paper No. 60
Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 107, Number 6, Part 1, pp. 1163-1198, December 1999
Abstract:
This paper examines the growth of government during this century as a result of giving women the right to vote. Using cross-sectional time-series data for 1870 to 1940, we examine state government expenditures and revenue as well as voting by U.S. House and Senate state delegations and the passage of a wide range of different state laws. Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing over time as more women took advantage of the franchise. Contrary to many recent suggestions, the gender gap is not something that has arisen since the 1970s, and it helps explain why American government started growing when it did.
30 posted on
02/12/2008 9:33:15 PM PST by
familyop
(cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
To: traditional1
“And with a black candidate, vs. any white candidate, which way would they be voting?”
The answer to that question are in the results of the Dem primaries. The white vote is split between Obama and Hillary and the black vote is solidly Obama, over 90% in some areas.
The real truth is, in a “black vs. white” race, far higher percentages of whites will vote for the black candidate than vice versa.
The fact that most blacks (I feel comfortable calling 80-90% of those who voted “most”) will vote strictly on racial lines when given the opportunity is applauded. The expectation of the relatively few whites to do the same is considered racist.
33 posted on
02/13/2008 6:07:47 AM PST by
L98Fiero
(A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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