[kabar]

We are better off getting a RINO elected and then becoming the 'loyal opposition' that - LIKE WE DID SUCCSESSFULLY ON AMNESTY AND MIERS - stands up against McCain when he does us wrong.

If McCain wins, it will be seen as confirmation that you can be a maverick, thumb your nose at your party and the conservatives, and still get elected. McCain will then move the party further to the Left. McCain will also view his election as a mandate to pass amnesty.

If McCain loses, he will blame it on the conservatives. The party will be split and it will take a long time to heal the wounds. All things considered, it is better that he loses than conservatives compromise their principles once again.

If Obama is the candidate, McCain will be trounced no matter what Conservatives do.

[Travis McGee]

214 is dead bang on.

[CottonBall]

If McCain loses, he will blame it on the conservatives. The party will be split and it will take a long time to heal the wounds.

I think if he wins, the party will also be split. The current fracture is due to a RINO president - a McCain presidency would do it in altogether, IMO.