Posted on 02/10/2008 7:28:17 PM PST by davidosborne
Sorry Gov. Crist not buying it... anyone else watcing this?
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
From the Hill, how McCain was going to jump to the Dims to take the Senate from Republicans in 2001, then Jeffords jumped.
Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP
John McCain (R-Ariz.) was close to leaving the Republican Party in 2001, weeks before then-Sen. Jim Jeffords (Vt.) famously announced his decision to become an Independent, according to former Democratic lawmakers who say they were involved in the discussions.
In interviews with The Hill this month, former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) and ex-Rep. Tom Downey (D-N.Y.) said there were nearly two months of talks with the maverick lawmaker following an approach by John Weaver, McCains chief political strategist.
Democrats had contacted Jeffords and then-Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.) in the early months of 2001 about switching parties, but in McCains case, they said, it was McCains top strategist who came to them.
At the end of their March 31, 2001 lunch at a Chinese restaurant in Bethesda, Md., Downey said Weaver asked why Democrats hadnt asked McCain to switch parties.
Downey, a well-connected lobbyist, said he was stunned.
Youre really wondering? Downey said he told Weaver. What do you mean youre wondering?
Well, if the right people asked him, Weaver said, according to Downey, adding that he responded, The calls will be made. Who do you want? Weaver this week said he did have lunch with Downey that spring, pointing out that he and Downey are very good friends.
He claims, however, that Downey is grossly mischaracterizing their exchange: We certainly didnt discuss in any detail about the senators political plans and any discussion about party-switchers, generically, would have been limited to the idle gossip which was all around the city about the [Democrats] aggressive approach about getting any GOP senator to switch in order to gain the majority. Nothing more or less than that.
Downey said Weaver is well aware that their discussion was much more than typical Washington chit-chat.
Within seconds of arriving home from his lunch with Weaver, Downey said he was on the phone to the most powerful Democrats in town. One of the first calls he made was to then-Senate Minority Leader Daschle.
I did take the call from Tom [Downey], Daschle said in an interview. It was Weavers comment to Downey that started the McCain talks, he added.
Daschle noted that McCain at that time was frustrated with the Bush administration as a result of his loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 Republican primary.
Daschle said that throughout April and May of 2001, he and McCain had meetings and conversations on the floor and in his office, I think in mine as well, about how we would do it, what the conditions would be. We talked about committees and his seniority [A lot of issues] were on the table.
Absolutely not so, according to McCain. In a statement released by his campaign, McCain said, As I said in 2001, I never considered leaving the Republican Party, period.
Some of the meetings Daschle referred to are detailed in the former senators 2003 book.
Other senators who played major roles in the intense recruiting effort, according to Democrats, were then-Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) as well as Sens. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Harry Reid (D-Nev.).
John [Edwards] at that time was working with McCain on a couple things and there was a sense that because of his relationship that he might be a good person to talk to him, Daschle said. He was clearly one of those that we thought could be helpful.
A source close to Edwards said Daschles comments are accurate.
Daschle also said, Both Sen. Reid and I talked to [McCain] both individually and together.
Several former McCain aides who worked for the senator in 2001 and are now in the private sector did not return phone calls seeking comment.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a longtime friend of McCains, said yesterday, I have never heard one word from Johns mouth to suggest he was going to leave the Republican Party. These are political-intrigue stories that have no basis in fact.
Speculation about McCains flirtations with becoming an Independent surfaced in the press throughout 2001.
In one article, Marshall Wittman, a McCain loyalist and strategist six years ago, put the odds of McCain leaving the Republican Party at 50-50. Wittman, who now works for Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.), declined to comment for this article. A source said that Wittmans comment at that time was completely based on speculation.
McCain consistently shot down the rumors, though Weaver acknowledged this week that the senator did talk to Democrats about leaving the GOP.
He said McCain was invited to a meeting in Kennedys office with several other Democratic senators but didnt know what the meeting was for and left soon thereafter. Weaver added that Edwards approached McCain on the Senate floor to discuss the matter.
Daschle, however, said the talks went much further, claiming that there were times that he and Democratic leaders thought McCain might be our best opportunity. Daschle stressed that McCain never considered becoming a Democrat, but was close to becoming an Independent.
Downey said, I actually thought during the initial stages of this that [McCain leaving the Republican Party] was almost a certain deal.
Weaver, who changed his party affiliation to Democrat several years ago, said he respects Daschle and Downey, but added, Theyre partisan Democrats and were in the political season.
Told of Weavers version of what happened, Daschle said, Obviously, our recollection of what transpired is somewhat different.
Daschle first made some of these assertions in little-noticed parts of his book, titled Like No Other Time: The 107th Congress and the Two Years That Changed America Forever.
The book states that in 2001, Daschle and other Democrats were attempting to persuade three Republicans to leave their party: Jeffords, Chafee, and McCain.
Asked which one was the closest to committing, Daschle answered, Depended on the day.
On page 62, Daschle wrote that McCain and Chafee seemed like real possibilities to bolt their party. He pointed out that few, if any, of McCains people were hired by the Bush administration.
John didnt think that was right, Daschle wrote, that his staff should be penalized like that.
Chafee confirmed to The Hill this week that he had meetings with Democrats about changing parties in 2001 because he was alarmed at the differences between President Bushs campaign promises and the policies coming out of his administration.
Weaver said he hasnt read Daschles book, which does not mention the Downey-Weaver lunch.
Mark Salter, who in 2001 was McCains chief of staff and now works for the senators campaign, said McCain has not at any moment thought about leaving the Republican Party: Never at any time. Never.
Salter said there were no staff discussions about this issue, noting he would have been in on them.
Soon after Bush was inaugurated as the nations 43rd president, McCain was working with Democrats on many issues, ranging from gun control to healthcare to campaign-finance reform.
McCains links to Democrats were so clear that Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) now a close ally of McCain publicly criticized him in the early part of 2001 for keeping unusual company.
Jeffords pulled the trigger on May 24, 2001, throwing control of the Senate to Democrats. Chafee and McCain then broke off their discussions with Democratic leaders, according to Democrats.
Downey said he talked to Weaver at least once a week during McCains discussions with Democrats, asking him questions like, What is the state of play? and Where are we?
Weaver was very active in this, Downey said, None of this happens without Weaver.
The Democrats claims about McCain come as the senator is courting the Republican base for his 2008 White House bid. Other frontrunners for the GOP nomination have raised some eyebrows in conservative circles. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) voted for Democratic Sen. Paul Tsongas (Mass.) in 1992, while ex-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) endorsed then-New York Gov. Mario Cuomo (D) a couple years later.
Asked why this news hasnt come out before, Downey said, Its a mystery to me. And in fact, the last time Weaver and I had dinner together [on April 26, 2006], we laughed about this Its never been written about, never got in the paper.
He denied any political motivation, saying he is still friends with Weaver and deeply respects McCain. I would have been happy to come forward last year or the year before if someone had asked There were meetings in offices. You cant deny [these meetings took place]. They occurred.
Downey added, Its my hope that John McCain is the Republican nominee because from my perspective, although I think Democrats are going to win, if they dont, McCain is the sort of man I would feel comfortable [with] as the president of the United States. Im not trying to hurt him.
Daschle said he doesnt believe the new revelations will hurt McCain. Everyone has known John McCain to be independent, to take his own course. That was a time in his life when he at least weighed the possibility of becoming an independent, but he rejected it, so I cant imagine that can ever be used as a political liability.
On June 2, 2001, The Washington Post ran a front-page story with the headline McCain is Considering Leaving GOP; Arizona Senator Might Launch a Third-Party Challenge to Bush in 2004.
The article, written in the wake of the Jeffordss announcement, noted that Daschle and his wife were visiting the McCains at the senators home in Arizona for what was billed by McCains office as a social event. But by that time, McCain had decided to stay a Republican, according to Daschle.
In his book, Daschle wrote that plans for the June weekend getaway were made months earlier when McCain was mulling changing his party affiliation.
As the media camped outside the senators vacation house in Sedona, Ariz., Daschle and McCain discussed what an incredible piece of history Jim Jeffords had just written, Daschle wrote. Nothing was said about John doing the same thing. I think we both knew that wasnt going to happen, not now.
McCain and Bush settled their differences before the presidents reelection campaign in 2004, when McCain strongly backed his former nemesis after reportedly rejecting an offer from Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) to become his vice presidential nominee. Last year, McCain aggressively stumped for dozens of GOP candidates.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/democrats-say-mccain-nearly-abandoned-gop-2007-03-28.html
He might. McCain likes to thumb his nose at Conservatives.
And to do it on national TV, yet.
I want to know about Crist.
Yeah! Me, too!
There's NO way I would ever let McCain near our global enemies, or our military or our courts and no way I would EVER let him stop those earmarks and government give aways!
Good to have you on the team David!
the economy will still tank if a dem is president. We’re about to hit a recession, the Bush tax cuts are about to expire, the dollar is already very weak and the price of gold is very high, the baby boomers are about to retire and nobody bothered to fix entitlements.
You’ll lose all your life’s savings but it will be worth it to show the GOP a lesson, right?
Right BTW Teddy Roosevelts Grt Grandson endorsed Mccain
we really need to focus on congress to keep the BEAST in check for 4 years.. after that I think the RNC/GOP will get the message.. we CAN survive 4 years of the HildaBEAST/Obama so long as we control congress... it will be a LOT easier for the conservatives in congress to OPPOSE the other side than to oppose McCain.. President McCain is the WORST possible scenario..
Sorry not buying the “sky is falling” rhetoric.. a CONSERVATIVE CONGRESS IS THE ANSWER.... we can try to get it RIGHT in 2012
ok so where will you put your money before Obama Carter makes the dollar as worthless as used toilet paper?
Our ONLY hope is to throw in the towel on the White House and make EVERY CONGRESSIONAL SEAT a NATIONAL ISSUE..
Pictured with Dr. Packer
we had a conservative congress for how many years under Bush and they just increased spending and blew up the deficit.
HOw many times do I have to post Mccain feingold was not unconstitutional
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Some law provisions upheld by the Supreme Court:
Prohibits national parties or candidates from accepting or soliciting “soft money,” including donations from corporations and unions.
Restricts election-time political ads by special-interest groups.
Bans political ads mentioning federal candidates in their districts a month before a primary election and two months before Election Day.
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WASHINGTON (CNN) — In a victory Wednesday for supporters of political campaign finance reform, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a ban on “soft money” contributions and limits on political advertising by advocacy groups before elections.
Soft money is the widely used term for unlimited and unregulated contributions to national political parties that were legal in the United States before passage of the law in 2002.
The high court’s 5-4 ruling also upheld the law’s restrictions on political advertising by special-interest groups in the weeks prior to an election. Such ads criticize or support a candidate’s stand on an issue.
After an expedited appeals process, the decision clears the way for the new restrictions to go into effect for the 2004 elections.
My daughter will proudly vote for Senator Mccain in Virginia next week!
We do not want a brokered convention. The voters have no say so if that happens. It's about delegates and would not produce what you imagine.
Huck is about Huck and I have no use for McCain either.
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