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OK, honest question here? Who is further to the left, McCain or Hillary?

If I recall correctly, McCain has something like a 75% (middle of the road for Congress) rating with a major conservative watchdog. However, that’s a “per vote” rating, not an issue based one. On the issues (gun control, GW’s barely adequate tax cuts, immigration, ad nauseum), he’s stabbed us conservatives in the back so many times that it’s hard to count. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice (or three or four or more realistically 10), shame on me.

What a dang mess...

AMEN brother or sister. The Stupid Republican Liberal Top Party Power Brokers GRAVELY MISJUDGED CONSERVATIVES. Those morons thought McAmnesty in the end would get Conservatives Republicans to back McCain just to stop Hillary or Barack.

The Top Party Liberal Republicans sure did not factor in a PARTY REVOLT !

The issue for me is Amnesty. If Mc is the president urging it on Congress there will be less opposition among Republicans in a Congress that is more Democrat of what it is now. Amnesty will pass and voila! 12-40 million new Democrats with A big chunk of the remaining Central American and Mexican population headed north. And he will NOT build the wall. The next Congress will have nothing to do with a wall and will not fund any sort of border restrictions. Amnesty bids to make the Republican Party into a quaint local party with also a couple of dozen congressmen and a senator or two.

OK, honest question here? Who is further to the left, McCain or Hillary?

If I recall correctly, McCain has something like a 75% (middle of the road for Congress) rating with a major conservative watchdog. However, that’s a “per vote” rating, not an issue based one. On the issues (gun control, GW’s barely adequate tax cuts, immigration, ad nauseum), he’s stabbed us conservatives in the back so many times that it’s hard to count. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice (or three or four or more realistically 10), shame on me.

It's not just a question of who is further left. How can we trust a man who has pulled dirty tricks on his "partners" so many times? The following quote was about national enemies, but would apply just as well to this situation:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.” - Marcus Tullius Cicero

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OK, honest question here? Who is further to the left, McCain or Hillary?

McCain. Hillary never helped the Viet Cong, at least not directly.

His rating was 65% in 2006.