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To: Graybeard58; P-Marlowe; Gamecock
According to the Family Research Council, a new Barna poll shows that the "born again," whatever that might this week, now overwhelmingly support Hillary (20% of the "born again" vote) and Obama (18%).

The above numbers do not add up to overwhelming support by born-again to Hillary and Obama.

This article, if taken at face value, says that 38% of the 'born again' support Clinton and Obama.

"20% of the born again vote" is a quote from above. What does it mean?

A student of many of Barna's past studies suggests that "born again" is now used so loosely that it has virtually no ability anymore to distinguish between conservative and liberal Christians.

I suspect that's what's going on here. They are measuring a word for which there is no agreed upon definition.

9 posted on 02/09/2008 3:29:07 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins
I suspect that's what's going on here. They are measuring a word for which there is no agreed upon definition.

Yeah. It's really hard to quantify whether someone is a True Christian and put it into a statistical report. But Barna and others keep on trying, and building their empires around such foolishness and ... (almost a form of) numerology.

56 posted on 03/08/2008 7:11:00 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: xzins
A student of many of Barna's past studies suggests that "born again" is now used so loosely that it has virtually no ability anymore to distinguish between conservative and liberal Christians.

That too. I think that falls in with the general liberalizing of the church - anything goes as long as you say you love Jesus (whoever you think he is).

65 posted on 03/22/2008 8:28:43 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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