Posted on 02/09/2008 6:39:28 AM PST by flattorney
Tom DeLay went after John McCain on Hardball with Chris Matthews. In it, he discusses McCain’s stand on immigration and global warming.
------
After John McCain’s speech at CPAC, Tom DeLay said in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC “Hardball”, that Mr. McCain had failed to acknowledge or repent his many votes and campaigns where he had waged war against the Right. Tom said, "He (McCain) didn't make many friends here today." DeLay concluded his interview to Matthews final question by stating “If he continues to be the same old John McCain that has disdain for the conservatives, then I’m not sure who’s the most dangerous to be in the White House” (Hillary/Obama or McCain). - TAB
The Republican party is not a baseball team that you root for good, bad, or indifferent. Just because John wears Republican red doesn’t mean he’s a red-blooded American. Quite a few of his actions speak DIRECTLY to the contrary. If it’s too difficult to take, don’t shoot the messenger. Ponder the man himself. Are you happy with a guy who tried to shut down gun shows? Do you want to pay more gas tax to put up with John’s craven bow to the environmental lobby on global warming? What part of his treason don’t you understand?
TOM DELAY INTERVIEW
Joining us right now is former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay.
Mr. Delay, thank you.
TOM DELAY, FORMER HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: Hello, Chris.
MATTHEWS: Do you want John McCain—do you want John McCain...
DELAY: Wish you were here, Chris. This is your people.
MATTHEWS: I have been there before. I was there. I spoke there once before.
MATTHEWS: Let me ask you, do you think John McCain should pretend to be what he‘s not or should he be what it is? In other words, should he do cartwheels to appeal to the right in the Republican Party, and be a fraud, like so many people have been in this campaign? Or should he be what he is, and you guys just have to learn to live with him, or what? What would be the ideal? Is there one?
DELAY: Well, I don‘t know about the ideal. I do know that the speech he gave did not address the issues that conservatives have with John McCain. He laid out a good treatise on what conservative principles are, but then he didn‘t apply those principles to the issue of global warming, for instance. He‘s—he‘s very supportive of one of the most massive regulatory schemes, using global warming as—as an excuse, the fact that he has closed down—he wants to close down gun shows, that he supports the International Criminal Court. He made a joke out of immigration, but didn‘t tell us how—what he‘s going to do about immigration. So—so, I don‘t think he really made a whole lot of friends here today.
MATTHEWS: What do you think—well, I can‘t resist. You know you have hooked me into this, Mr. DeLay.
MATTHEWS: What is the conservative position on climate change, now that you have broken that subject? I just need to know the answer to that one.
DELAY: It‘s very good. A man is not causing climate change. Climate change may be a phenomenon, but there is no science to suggest that man is the cause of climate change. And, therefore, you do not have to undermine our economy, nor take people‘s freedom away on—on something that the science has not proven yet.
MATTHEWS: So, that latest report from the Rocky Mountains that the snowpack is disappearing out there is what? Even though they said that that was their result of what‘s going out there, manmade climate change, you don‘t believe in it?
DELAY: Manmade climate change. It is arrogance to suggest that man can affect climate change...
MATTHEWS: OK.
DELAY: ... and no science that supports such a notion.
MATTHEWS: OK.
What is the conservative position on gun ownership? The Second Amendment says the right to bear arms. Are there any restrictions permissible on the right to bear arms, under your philosophy?
DELAY: Well, there—not—not by my philosophy, no.
MATTHEWS: No restrictions?
DELAY: You ought to be able to bear arms, no restrictions, absolutely not. Now, we have some. And we—we abide by the law. But we‘re talking about John McCain supporting the shutdown of gun shows.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
DELAY: He‘s got to answer that—for that. It‘s—it‘s not a matter—it‘s amazing to me, as I saw people introducing John McCain today that are the same people that criticized people like myself for not standing on principle wanting us to support a man that‘s not standing on principle. So, I mean, there‘s a little conflict or a little hypocrisy going on here.
MATTHEWS: So, just to get your philosophy, because I‘m fascinated about it, because I come from a different part of the country than you, you think it‘s all right for somebody to drive through north Philadelphia, up and down North Broad Street, with a hummer and a bazooka coming out of the window? That would be all right for you?
DELAY: Well, you always do that. Make it—
MATTHEWS: I‘m just asking! Do you believe in gun control at all?
DELAY: Hey, Chris, I do support anybody in Philadelphia to carry a concealed weapon to protect themselves. Yes, I certainly do.
MATTHEWS: OK, let me ask you about John McCain—
DELAY: -- as we do in Texas.
MATTHEWS: I know you do. Let me go down the road here to September, when the Republican party meets in St. Paul, Minnesota. How do you see this working out? Is there someone John McCain has to put on the ticket? Is there some statement he has to make? How does he clear himself with the Republican right? Is there a way for him to do it?
DELAY: Well, he speaks to their issues. He‘s got many weeks, if not months, right now. He said in his speech that he knows he has to have the conservative support in order to become president of the United States. If he—if he wants that support, then he‘s going to have to reach out to them and have a dialogue with them so that they feel comfortable with him as president of the United States.
All that has to happen before he even announces his intentions for a vice president candidate. There‘s a lot of work that needs to go on. Chris, the turn outs are already proven that—turn-outs of Republicans are low because they don‘t—conservatives don‘t have a standard-bearer. And if he wants to get those turn-out numbers up, he‘s going to have to reach out to the conservative—the conservatives in this country. He‘s going to have to build a base within the party. If he chooses to ignore them, then he‘s not going to be president.
MATTHEWS: Let‘s take a look at Senator McCain, Mr. Delay. Let‘s look at Senator McCain talking about what he would do in terms of accepting the counsel from your end of the party. Here he is.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MCCAIN: We‘ve had a few disagreements, and none of us will pretend that we won‘t continue to have a few. But even in disagreement, especially in disagreement, I will seek the counsel of my fellow conservatives. If I am convinced my judgment is in error, I will correct it. And if I stand by my position, even after benefit of your counsel, I hope you will not lose sight of the far more numerous occasions when we are in accord.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MATTHEWS: So, he‘s offering you, Mr. Delay, marriage counseling, if things don‘t work out as smoothly as you‘d like for him. What do you think of that?
DELAY: I like that. I like hearing that. And the—but the proof is in action. Rhetoric is cheap. And to conservatives action is everything. You cannot bamboozle us or buffalo us. So let‘s see if he‘ll actually do that.
MATTHEWS: OK, I‘ll watch in action here. You‘re watching Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton loading up the luggage up in Chappaqua. They‘re driving the car, the SUV, the hybrid, I should say, all the way down to Washington. The only thing that‘s going to stop them from moving back into the White House, both of them, is you, as you vote. Will you vote for John McCain to keep the Clintons out of the White House, Mr. Conservative?
DELAY: I‘m not—I‘m not sure I can answer that right now. I‘m—I want to see the John McCain—I want to see who is John McCain on the election day when I go to the polls. I don‘t have to decide that right now. And I—I‘m going to be pushing the conservative cause, and let‘s see what John McCain does reaching out to conservatives, because, you know, if he continues down to be the same old John McCain that has—used to have disdain for conservatives, then I‘m not sure who is the most dangerous to be in the White House.
MATTHEWS: Wow! That‘s the lay of the land from the conservative right of the Republican party from the CPAC convention floor, Mr. Conservative. Tom Delay, thank you, sir, for coming on HARDBALL and putting the message to the presumptive nominee.
# # END OF INTERVIEW ##
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23069791/
Posted for FlAttorney by TAB
Well a lot of us feel we have no alternative. I’m not a traitor, and neither are a lot of us. Don’t you go there, accusing us of treachery if we need to vote for McCain!If there’s one thing I can’t stand, is some sanctimonious person flinging names at others because they don’t vote the way they personally approve of!
No way am I going to sit and let Hillary or Obama win if I can do something about it! I’m not wild about many things McCain has done. I don’t really like him much. But I’ll take him over anyone on the other side, even if I have to hold my nose! I’ll not have someone sitting on here and lecturing at me, and calling me a traitor for supporting someone as a last straw.
McCain is someone who might just help us buy time until we can get someone better. Besides, I’m not asking for your approval on who to vote for anyway!
If we up the rhetoric, it’s not because we’re without a cause. I do believe anyone who votes for Hillary, Obama, OR McCaine is acting the part of a traitor towards the liberties of his country. Read what Sam Adams wrote about those who would not participate in the struggle against England. (I believe he told the lukewarm to bow down and lick the boots of their masters.)
For too long, Conservatives have played “nice guys.” “Just Wait.” Take the lesser of two evils. Don’t criticize GWB when he went on a spending spree or cozied up to Saudi leaders who were every bit as bad as Al Queda. Just take the scraps from the table.
John McCain got an F- from Gun Owners of America. He voted for Ruth Bader Ginsburg. He criticized the Swift Boat Veterans. He is a traitor—and anyone who gives that jackal aid and comfort is only helping a traitor get his way.
I can NOT vote for prez, and I DON’T HAVE TO TELL ANYONE! I CAN VOTE FOR HILL I CAN WRITE IN A NAME ....
AND WHO EVER WINS OR LOSES,IT DOES NOT LIE ON MY HEAD!
I never took a blood oath for the GOP.
Obama is probably the most dangerous.
because he knows who he is better than most ppl do
a complete lunatic
Good for you.
Godspeed.
So McCain wants the conservative vote ?...well he is going to have to earn it after his sorry liberal record as Tom Delay points out and we well know!..How about this?...How about if we FReepers draw up our own 10 point contract with John McCain ?..That should be easy to do...we might need another thread to do this, but in keeping with this thread, i’d like to say #1 and #2 points could be”
1 Fire Juan Hernandez NOW and replace him with an acceptable Hispanic advisor
2. No Amnesty,but Immigration Reform and make the States enforce the existing immigration laws.
It is refreshing to FINALLY hear a conservative say..."Man does not cause climate change"
Thank you, Tom DeLay!
There are so many things that McCain is wrong on, but between his class warfare comments during the debate, and his falling for the global warming lie, he doesn't sound any different than the leftist liberals!
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.